> Just FYI, 'script kiddie' is a derogatory hacker term. It does not
> 'newbie' or 'noob', as I think you might be implying.
I meant, 'daft user whose code looks like a 9-year-old's just messing
about with LOLCODE or l33tspeak in comparison to good design',
crossed with 'learned in a quick-and-dirty way on scripts as opposed
to properly'. If this is incorrect, I'll stop saying it... But hope
you get the idea of what I was trying to get across.
A "script kiddie" is a hacker - in the disruptive sense - who doesn't
even try to learn anything from the practice, but just finds and runs
exploit code written by other people. Not quite the same thing.
And LOLCODE is a joke programming language inspired by the langauge of
lolcat macros, not really applicable in this context. :)
But I always feel that Real Programmers who learned properly with a
proper education or at least ploughed through more books on their own
before asking questions (and for whom it's the day job) don't deserve
to get dumb questions from somebody who's essentially using them to
*get* an education and whose code could scarcely be more mangled and
is falling over stupid twit scope and variable type errors every five
Speaking as a Real Programmer, we'd much rather you ask questions like
that then, as many people in that situation do, blithely assume you
know what you're doing and publish or put into production fragile,
This list is probably full of two types of people
1) People for whom actual coding is the day job.
2) Ordinary professional people who never really mess with code much
from day to day but who have really app-specific questions
I'm a 1.5 on that list, I guess. I have a BS in Computer Science and
a job in IT, but my job isn't mostly coding . . . and certainly not in
It is probably not full of people like me who haven't got a day job,
have written about 50 or 100 lines of code and have the vague idea
it's rubbish, and could do with a leg up on all the basics with the
hope of selling a tiny specific shareware program for about £5 for
the kudos, if they get anywhere over the next six months or so and
get inspired (and who are getting the problem that they can't get an
easy view of those lines of code because their flow-of-control is
shot to hell because when they started the program 3 months ago they
didn't know how to write code).
Well, once you get THAT specific, there probably aren't that many of
you, sure... :)
Mark J. Reed <email@hidden>
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