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Re: Is Carbon Viable?




On Jun 14, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Eric Schlegel wrote:

Xcode 3.0 actually has improved support for Java in a lot of ways, and of course the Java team continues to integrate new Java releases from Sun into Mac OS X.

I think perhaps what you're referring to is that the Java API for Cocoa was deprecated at last year's WWDC. That API was an attempt to wrap every Cocoa API in a corresponding Java API so you could write Cocoa apps using Java rather than Objective C. The mismatch between APIs proved to be too great, though, and it was too hard to keep the Java API in sync with the Cocoa API, so the Cocoa team has deprecated the Java API for Cocoa.

You're right, that's mostly what I was referring to. But I'd much rather write in Java than Obj-C, so I consider it a loss. Even if it weren't the case, I'd much rather write in C++ (or D!), and use the Carbon API (which I still prefer. I think it's cleaner, and doesn't have the legacy style of Cocoa).


However, the standard Java APIs (AWT, Swing, all of the standard extensions) are and will continue to be fully supported, and Xcode's support for Java will continue to improve.

Yeah, well, the standard Java GUI really leaves a LOT to be desired on the Mac. I use the Mac because it is the details that are important to me, and Java (as well as all those "cross-platform" toolkits) seem to step all over the details.


--
Rick


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