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Re: [OT] Why Apple doesn't care



For those Select and Premier developers who were not able to attend WWDC this year, I assume we'll be getting access to the latest Leopard version soon enough.  And perhaps there is no official answer for this yet, but will we have access to the WWDC presentations/discussions before Leopard ships, or will we have to wait like everyone else?

-Stevo Brock
 Head of Development
 Monkey Tools




On Jun 19, 2007, at 12:59 PM, Chris Espinosa wrote:

On Jun 18, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Rosyna wrote:

Safari is Cocoa on Mac OS as well, but it looks like they converted most of the WebKit internals from ObjC to C++ in order to smooth out this particular transition, so it may not be Cocoa on Win32.

There's no Cocoa code in Safari on Windows, which you can confirm by browsing the source code. Although the Mac Safari shell is cocoa, it's innards (WebKit, WebCore, et cetera) are becoming increasingly C++.

"converted?" "becoming increasingly?"


"Based on KHTML from KDE’s Konqueror open source project, the Safari rendering engine delivers the best performance and standards compatibility available on the Mac platform. Apple will continue to work closely with the open source community and share its ongoing optimizations to the KHTML code."

WebKit is, and always has been, an Objective-C wrapper around open-source C++.  The C++ in WebKit pre-dates Safari itself by several years.

I admit that it's hard to deduce Apple's motivations based on a small number of facts, and the fact set is currently slim because a) many of the people discussing this topic were not at WWDC and did not hear the specific presentations on Carbon and Safari on Windows, and b) those that were are bound, like Apple employees are, to not disclose that information until Leopard ships to customers.   But if you're going to try to draw conclusions from the few facts you have, it's best to make sure you have actual facts to work with, not things-that-are-the-exact-opposite-of-facts.

Chris

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