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Re: Is Carbon Viable?



Interesting...  Effectively what you are saying is that Apple is
poisoning the water, which will either move us off our current libation
of Carbon or kill us off.

A discussion was started months ago on the foundation that carbon was
being phased out.  I don't know if the discussion died because it was
crushed, everyone felt sufficient vented or it just ran out of steam.
Now that we've come to it again with more fervor, I wonder if a petition
is in order.  I once thought petitioning a company was ineffective but I
wonder if would be effective in getting a head count of developers who
would find moving to cocoa a great hardship and which would find it an
utter impossibility.  Of course if there is not enough participation, we
might just be giving Apple the bullet to the gun they are pointing at
us.


W.

>>> If you can't force them to switch, then make life miserable to the
point they decide to switch on their own. I think that's where we're
headed...

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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:20:03 -0500
From: Tony Scaminaci <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Is Carbon Viable?
To: Carbon-Dev list <email@hidden>
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My opinion for what it's worth is that Apple would like Carbon to go
away if possible. The fact that Carbon is still around means that many
developers don't want to start all over again in Cocoa and for those
cross-platform applications, which is the easier to maintain, Carbon or
Cocoa? I think Carbon survived long beyond the transition to OS X
because there were too many applications already written with that API
and developers don't want to redo all their work just because Apple has
decided Cocoa is the new API dujour.

It's difficult for any company to justify maintaining two competing
platforms. Apple clearly prefers Cocoa as an API and a platform and I'm
sure it's costing a pretty penny to keep Carbon alive. If I were Apple,
I wouldn't want to do this because it doesn't make economic sense. But
Apple is finding itself in a bad position because developers are
fighting against Apple's platform of choice. The only reason Carbon is
still viable is because Apple doesn't want to alienate developers.
However, if they slowly eliminate some desirable features, it's possible
that developers will eventually migrate to Cocoa out of sheer
frustration. If you can't force them to switch, then make life miserable
to the point they decide to switch on their own. I think that's where
we're headed...

Tony

>>>

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