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Re: What do we want in Carbon? (was Modern C++)

I have my own solutions......ie webobjects.

I just wonder why such a "business" need is not better addressed. In the MS world, connecting to a standard database is address quite well. Apple does provide great, nixed that, superb WO and as usual, they do it in a world class manner.

On the developer side, I think from the ingredients post as of yet, IMO this is a perfect issue Apple could nail. In addition, I don't see it stealing from revenue on the software side, it would increase revenue. A cluster of MYSQL servers in a Enterprise environment and heavy clients. The folk who write Real Basic felt this was something important.

Does it belong in Carbon? Well, EOF has been sitting on the shelf unsupported for two years now on the Cocoa side. Move it or loose it.. or Can the Cocoa ?share? it with the Carbon folks? ODBC....JDBC....how about ADBC... or MDBC..or CDBC Apple, Mac Carbon.



On Sunday, November 2, 2003, at 04:30 AM, Mike Kluev wrote:

On 1 Nov 2003 03:17:16 -0500, Jim Mooney <email@hidden> wrote:

How about a complete class of database driver objects.
MySQL, Filemaker, PostgreSQL, Oracle (no need to connect to MSSQL)

I would be nice to have Carbon apps have sleek and easily usable api's
to call to work with existing databases.
(start with MySql)

You can build this on top of ODBC. ODBC Administrator is preinstalled
on X; I believe the appropriate headers are also preinstalled (SQL.h,
SQLExt.h, ...). All you need to get is appropriate ODBC drivers to talk
to database of your choice.

Historically, Apple's attempt to database connectivity API (DAL)
failed soon after introduction (about ten years ago) and ODBC (being
NIH technology) was ignored by Apple (no driver manager, no headers)
until Mac OS X . There were several vendors that provided ODBC
drivers for Mac (usually along with driver manager of their own)
including Visigenic, Intersolv, Merant, Augsoft, Openlink. Some of
these are still in this business (start with last). Typically ODBC
driver costs $20-$100 per single client workstation and some $$$
for the server part.

Mike
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