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Problems with Groups and Home Folders



I run a relatively small graphics lab (40+ stations) with a mix of older client machines (several G3s, a dozen or so G4 450s, and the rest either mirrored doors DP G4s or 867 G4s). We have a DP G4 XServe.

We have about 900 students and faculty in our db with the bulk of them assigned to a workgroup called University (univ). We are running network home folders for everyone.

I started all the computers out with 10.3.1 (10.3.2 for the 12 Final Cut Pro stations) and tried to upgrade them to 10.3.4 last Spring. Big mistake. The network home folders stopped loading and the log in just sat there forever.

For most of last year we thought (Apple included) that it was a DNS timeout issue. The DNS server was taking too long to reply to the client and the client was missing the very short window for accessing and mounting the home folder.

Subsequent OS updates failed to fix this until 10.3.8. Now I have done some small experiments with 10.3.8 on a few of my stations and it seems to work. But...

Now I am planning a new lab, all G5 iMacs with a G5 server acting as a replica. These machines all will have 10.3.8 on them, as well as a fresh build of all our apps and drivers. My problem is that none of my users can log in to the new G5 clients, either through the replica or directly through the master directory server. The only exception to this are users with NO GROUP AFFILIATION.
That is, if I assign a user a group to be in, even if there are no preferences set for that group, that user cannot log in to the new G5 clients. If I remove the group affiliation, bingo! the log in succeeds and the home folder mounts correctly.


BTW, I can reproduce this error from scratch with the new server. As a test I used the new server -- fresh from the box -- as a directory master, added some new test users, created a new group, gave some of the users the group affiliation and bingo! same set of results. remove the group affiliation, the new users mounted their home folders ok. And I used a brand new iMac fresh from the box with only the Directory Access file set to point to the new server.

Has anyone seen anything like this? I am really stumped as to what it could be. I'm thinking now that my earlier problem was not a DNS timeout error but was related to this group affiliation block on the home folders mounting correctly. But I have no idea how to fix this. Even Apple doesn't know what to make of it.


Ira Friedwald FPA Media Arts Center Portland State University

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