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Re: Use creation problem on X-Serve



> Hello, new on the list. Would have preferred to lurk a little longer,
> but this subject has also rattled my chain. :-)
> I'm a freelance consultant, and one of my clients is a 30 user
> advertising agency, all Mac OS X Panther.
>
> On Nov 18, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Simon Slavin wrote:
>
>>
>> On 18 Nov 2005, at 4:47pm, David Riddle wrote:
>>
>>> When he creates a new user, locally on the server, using the
>>> remote admin tools (because the server is headless), he can create
>>> the user without problem, but he can't create the home directory.
>>> The admin tool allows him to give the instruction, allows him to
>>> save, and doesn't give him an error message, but the directory
>>> just isn't created.
>>
>> The home directory may not be created until the user logs in for
>> the first time.  It takes quite a lot of time to create a home
>> directory and the administrator wouldn't want to wait for it to be
>> finished before they could carry on with the next one.
>
> It is insane, pardon my strong language, that this would slow the
> administrator down.  In a unix environment, the creation of the new
> home directory should just happen more or less instantaneously (or in
> the background, at least) when the user is created, and the admin can
> go on about his work.  If it takes a bit of time, it nonetheless
> shouldn't prevent the admin from continuing on with other tasks.  Try
> it in Linux or BSD at the command line, for comparison.

Homedir creation should be very quick. If it's taking a long time then
something is wrong.

>>
>> Tell him to create a user and then have that user log in.  See if /
>> that/ creates a home directory.
> Interesting.
>
> In workgroup manager I see the button that says "Create Home
> Directory" and it has never done anything for me (probably what the
> original poster is describing),

That button should work, but can be problematic. createhomedir seems to
work more reliably.

> so I just make sure the paths are
> like I want them(nonstandard here) and ssh in to use the command line
> and create a directory in the right place, with the right name and
> the right permissions.  When the user logs in, the directory gets
> populated.  If I haven't done that, the uses ends up not having a
> home directory somehow (maybe because my home directories are on a
> different disk, in /home instead of /Users!?).

Erm... Check the path in the Home tab of the user.

>
> Have to try this again to confirm that user directories don't get
> created by user logins, but that is certainly my recollection.

They should be created on the first AFP login or if the sysadmin triggers
the creation process by hand.

Josh

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References: 
 >Use creation problem on X-Serve (From: David Riddle <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Use creation problem on X-Serve (From: Simon Slavin <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Use creation problem on X-Serve (From: Matthew Easton <email@hidden>)



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