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Re: Local user accounts and computer lists



Actually, there is an error in the text - I must have missed that in the review... :-(

The sentence "If you select “All groups can use the computer,” users log in without having to select a workgroup." Is wrong - it should say " ... local users can then choose any workgroup."

The hangup you are having is between groups and workgroups. The OD groups are for segmenting users into nice neat piles. Workgroups are specifically designed to provide preferences for a group or set of users. While you can create a series of groups such as 'teachers', 'students' and 'techies' - those groups only become visible as workgroups when you assign preferences to them. You could also create a workgroup based on workflow - for instance, teachers and students need to collaborate, so you create a workgroup called "School" (really inventive, huh?). You then add the teachers nd students groups to that workgroup. "School" becomes a workgroup when you set preferences, such as Dock settings, Syspref access, and automatic mounting of a group folder.

This all applies to local users (the generic 'student' account) when you allow local users to log into that workgroup. The reason you may specify specific workgroups for local users is that you may have other workgroups, such as 'Tech Support" that you do not want the local account accessing. Since - and this is key - local users cannot be assigned to OD groups, the system allows them to access the settings of any workgroup they are allowed to see on that local machine. That is a very specific MCX capability.

Does this help?

JohnD

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On Jul 24, 2006, at 3:20 PM, Andrea XFox Govoni wrote:

Hi,
I'm working on a server with Mac OS X Server 10.4.7 configured as Open
Directory Master and some clients with Mac OS X 10.4.7.
I'm reading Apple's "User Management" PDF [1].
Section "Using Local User Accounts" on page 98 explains how to manage
preferences for clients' local user accounts and on the next page there
is a step-based task that should teach you how to accomplish it.
It says:


[BEGIN QUOTED TEXT]
To provide access for users with local accounts:
1 In Workgroup Manager, click Accounts.
2 Select a computer list that supports computers with local users.
To select a list, click the globe and choose the directory domain that
contains the computer list, click the Computer Lists button, and select
the list.
3 To authenticate, click the lock and enter the name and password of a
directory domain administrator.
4 Click Access.
5 Select “Restrict to groups below” to determine which workgroups are
displayed when a local user logs in. Drag groups from the drawer to the
list in the Access pane.
If you select “All groups can use the computer,” users log in without
having to select a workgroup.
6 If you selected “Restrict to groups below,” select “Local-only
accounts pick workgroups from the above list,” to require that users
select one of those workgroups.
The workgroup picker is only displayed if client computers use Mac OS X
version 10.4 or later. Additionally, if there is only one workgroup, the
user will automatically log in as a member of that workgroup.
If you do not select “Local-only accounts pick workgroups from the above
list,” local users do not have to select a workgroup.
7 Make sure “Allow users with local-only accounts” is selected.
8 Click Save.
[END QUOTED TEXT]


I really cannot understand the point of having the “Restrict to groups
below” and “Local-only accounts pick workgroups from the above list”
options.
The definition of workgroup is "A set of users for whom you define
preferences and privileges as a group." and AFAIK it's created in the
server's LDAP domain. So, how is it possible for a local account to be
in a workgroup?
Or is it allowed for a local-only user to choose to be managed with the
preference settings of a workgroup it isn't part of?
If it would be true, wouldn't it break the whole preference management
policy used?


Please point me out to what I am missing.

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