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Re: Cocoa, Quartz, Colorspaces and ColorSync




Here's the technote you want (2035): http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn2035.html. It explains how Quartz and color management work together, and gives some rough definition of the basic concepts.

Thanks for the reference. It had some interesting things that were new to me (especially sips !) but
much of it was a rehash of docs I've already seen. Most of the discussion is couched in terms of
keeping already extant PDF's and images constant. It doesn't really address content creation
or Cocoa. In particular it doesn't answer the (by now perennial) questions:

* What space is NSCalibratedRGBColorSpace ?

* What is actually being done when you do [myNSCalibratedRGBColor set] and then draw ?

* If untagged data is considered to have Generic RGB Profile and NSCalibratedRGBColorSpace does
turn out to be equivalent to the space defined by Generic RGB Profile, then what in hell is the difference
between "Calibrated RGB" and "Device RGB" in Cocoa ?

* Where and when do the transformations happen - again, what happens between and RGB being
supplied to Cocoa and the RGB being applied to the input of the display ?

* An in a related matter - what is the Digital Color Meter app measuring ? I used to be an experimental
physicist. If you don't really know what your device is measuring, it's a pretty worthless device.


Second, the Quartz code you want to use is pretty much:

CMProfileRef aProfile;

CMGetDefaultProfileBySpace(cmRGBData, &aProfile);
if ( aProfile == NULL ) return PF_Err_OUT_OF_MEMORY;


colorSpace = CGColorSpaceCreateWithPlatformColorSpace( aProfile );

CMCloseProfile( aProfile );

The CGColorSpaceCreateWithPlatformColorSpace() is how you access ColorSync on the Mac, *not* using the ICC-based functions. It's very confusing. Look up CMGetDefaultProfileBySpace() and you'll see other constants which you can supply. You change these profiles in the ColorSync Utility app.


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Also, go to OmniGroup.com and download OmniAppKit. It has some nice ColorSync-relelated code for Cocoa that you can use.

I have the Omni code and I took another look at it on the train. Unfortunately, it is more evidence for the suspicion that the Cocoa level interfaces are useless for doing a real color managed application. While Omni has done an elegant job of packaging their stuff using their own profile object and a category for NSColor, they are doing major monkey business behind the scenes: They do a runtime replacement of the "set" selector for all the classes in the NSColor class cluster. The replacement selector does some negotiation with their own profile object, asks ColorSync for the device RGB equivalent considering the various profiles and then does

CGContextSetFillColorSpace( ... );
CGContextSetStrokeColorSpace( ... );
CGContextSetFillColor( ... );
CGContextSetStrokeColor( ... );

using device RGB for the color space and the RGB components it gets at the end of the
chain.

Or something like that - it's not exactly straightforward and I have sit down sometime and trace it
out. At the moment I don't see any difference between how it treats an NSColor that is calibrated RGB and
one that is device RGB.


Bob Clair




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