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Re: Edit textView with IB

Hey Lorenzo -

On Dec 19, 2007, at 5:41 PM, Lorenzo wrote:

Hi Jonathan,
Of course the new version of IB looks quite better than the previous one,
but I have to say...too many bugs, to many strange behaviours. For example,
you click on an object and you can't edit it, then you have to click on it
several times, until you get the control over it. It's not an intuitive UI.

I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say, but if you're referring to something like editing a button's title live in the inline editor, try double clicking on the title. Double clicking always begins editing the deepest object under the mouse.

Also you need to select a given view on a panel containing other objects...
No way, you have to pass trough all the other objects to select the one you
want.. Too bad. I would like to say, freely, this IB version has not the
traditional "easy" Apple style. What's happening there?...
Did Apple lose the control over IB and XCode? Too many things to do at Apple
Inc. due to the iPhone? Please Apple, speech a nice word for us developers.
Thanks.

The best way to have your concerns addressed is to file individual radar bugs with clear steps to reproduce and explicit expected behavior. If you feel that something about the selection mechanism is awkward, please file a radar. I really would love to make Interface Builder easier for you to use, but in order to do that, I have to understand what you find to be difficult. Unfortunately, the previous paragraph isn't explicit enough for me to be able to extract actionable items.

Here's a quick bit about how Interface Builder translates your mouse clicks into selections. Its important to remember that a cocoa interface is composed of a tree of objects, and at any time there are usually multiple objects at any one location on a window. If you aren't familiar with it already, using the outline view in interface builder will help you understand this hierarchy. So, when you click: Double clicking always actives the object under the mouse. A single click on an unselected object selects the most interesting object under the mouse. This is typically something like a button instead of a button cell. A single click on a selected object selects the next child of the selected object under the mouse.

Good Luck -
Jon Hess


Best Regards
--
Lorenzo
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From: Jonathan Hess <email@hidden>
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:30:04 -0800
To: Lorenzo <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Edit textView with IB

Hey Lorenzo -

I just wanted to let you know that I logged a bug for this.

Jon Hess


On Dec 19, 2007, at 8:26 AM, Lorenzo wrote:

Hi,
Using IB 3.0 (629) I open a nib file made with the previous IB.
I double click on a scrollingView containing text, I can quite
select the
text, but I can't edit the text. I was able to paste end edit the
text using
the previous IB. Do I miss something now?



Best Regards
--
Lorenzo
email: email@hidden

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