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Interface Builder "layout" versus "frame"



I've noticed that Interface Builder shows not only a "frame" value for object sizes, but also a "layout" value.

I am trying to create a few controls programatically and it seems like I'd get results a lot closer to what I'm expecting if I could create them with a "layout" rectangle instead of a "frame" rectangle. For instance, if I make an NSTabView, it's significantly inset compared to the NSRect I've set. But if I go into IB and create a tab control and set up its "layout" rectangle to match what I want, the positioning is perfect.

So programatically, how do I work with "layout" rectangles instead of "frames"?

I know that technically I could just hard-code the margin sizes of controls but I am hoping to avoid this… it doesn't seem future-proof.

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