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Re: Interface Builder "layout" versus "frame"

So far I've been going into IB, making a control, measuring each margin by hand, and hard-coding it. Then I've added a category to each view I care about which can return the margin info. That way it's pretty easy to account for it when calculating sizes and positions.

It's been a little slow going, but it does work.

I hate doing stuff which I know to be fragile, but I guess if they changed it, then everyone's nibs would be broken too. So I can't imagine this breaking without tons of existing layouts also being broken.


On Nov 8, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Ken Ferry wrote:

Hi John,

Sorry; this is a long standing request, but this information isn't
available.  IB isn't retrieving the info from the frameworks, it has
its own internal rules.

-Ken
Cocoa Frameworks

On Nov 8, 2007 10:26 AM, John Stiles <email@hidden> wrote: 
I've noticed that Interface Builder shows not only a "frame" value
for object sizes, but also a "layout" value.

I am trying to create a few controls programatically and it seems
like I'd get results a lot closer to what I'm expecting if I could
create them with a "layout" rectangle instead of a "frame" rectangle.
For instance, if I make an NSTabView, it's significantly inset
compared to the NSRect I've set. But if I go into IB and create a tab
control and set up its "layout" rectangle to match what I want, the
positioning is perfect.

So programatically, how do I work with "layout" rectangles instead of
"frames"?

I know that technically I could just hard-code the margin sizes of
controls but I am hoping to avoid this… it doesn't seem future-proof.

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