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Re: MacOS X equivalent of swapon/swapoff?




On Oct 10, 2006, at 10:34 , Alison Cassidy wrote:

On Oct 10, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Justin C. Walker wrote:


On Oct 10, 2006, at 10:10 , Alison Cassidy wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a programmatic way of switching VM on and off, similar to the way Linux does it? I've good reason to do this (honest!) and need some way to disable VM for the duration of running my app or at the least, ensure it doesn't flush to disk at the wrong moment.

AFAIK, no OS that supports VM has such a feature. How would you deal, within your app, with this problem: you are running, you "turn off VM", the next instruction to be executed in your app lies at the start of a page that, oops, is paged out?

Fair point. However, I'm assuming the kernel memory management will deal accordingly in some sane manner. See; http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/ CGI/man-cgi?swapoff+2

Mac OS X is not Linux :-}

In any case, from that man page, I don't see how you can do both of "quiet all disk activity" and avoid the problem I mention above (which really isn't specific to your process; modern OSs have a lot of processes that can fire at any time to handle the exigencies of the moment; they need to be able to run, or the system crumbles).

How do you avoid this problem in Linux?

There may be more reasonable ways to solve your problem. Can you be more specific about what you are trying to do?

I'm trying to quiet disk activity. If I could suspend the OS File Manager temporarily, I would do so :) Right now, I'm even running a separate pthread to sync() on a very regular basis to ensure that the kernel doesn't build up too many dirty blocks which it would otherwise flush in a flurry of disk activity. I'm doing some very strange things indeed!

You could, as mentioned earlier in this thread, avoid enabling the paging daemon. With sufficient memory, you could run a full system, but things may start failing in strange ways without the elasticity provided by a backing store. In case you haven't looked in depth at the Mac OS X VM system, it's all handled by the paging daemon. There is no path to disk (for this purpose) within the kernel.


Justin

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