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Re: Cancel Sleep

Well, I understand why it may seem like a ridiculous argument since it is oblique to the OPs intent and because conventional wisdom suggests that all is lost once physical access to the machine is achieved, but where I live and work, it's much easier to walk away with a closed laptop in a backpack than with an open laptop in the middle of disassembly. The time and effort it takes to perform these tasks can make a difference 1) in letting various types of recovery software kick in, and 2) which laptops are most attractive to theives.
<finished voicing opinion>

Dave Schroeder wrote:
No. The firmware password can be easily and trivially defeated with unfettered physical access (change physical amount of RAM in the machine, and zap PRAM).

And I was about to respond to the last post, too, and thought better of it...but anyway, yes, it is a moot point and mostly a ridiculous argument, but *technically*, if a thief could somehow easily do this, it would render FileVault useless for a logged-in user. Why it would be necessary to close the lid as opposed to just taking it is beyond me, but as long as we're considering every fringe case, there's another one.

- Dave

On Jan 2, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Robert T Wyatt wrote:

Not if the EFI or Open Firmware password have been set.

Matt Burnett wrote:
Thats a moot point. If a thief has physical access to a machine, he wont care if its logged in or not. If he wants the data, he can boot off a CD, if they want a machine, then well, they all ready have it.
On Jan 2, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Robert T Wyatt wrote:
Too bad that this may be a mechanism for a thief to use to leave one's machine running and logged in while they move it to another location. 
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 >Re: Cancel Sleep (From: Michael Smith <email@hidden>)
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