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Re: NetInfo



On 14 Mar 2006, at 12:59, M Bartosh wrote:


On Mar 14, 2006, at 6:00 AM, Graham J Lee wrote:

For instance, looking at my own user record with dscl, there are four properties specifying my home directory and two specifying my user shell.

Actually there are 2 for home and one for shell. WGM / dscl etc don't speak LDAP.. they talk to DirectoryService (the primary daemon behing Open Directory). You're seeing the DirectoryService (Open Directory, Standard, the terminology is messy) name in addition to the LDAP (aka native) name.


NFSHomeDirectory and homeDirectory are the same thing (a unix file system path). The former is Open Directory's name, the latter LDAP.


Oh yes, I had thought that the multiple representations were capable of taking on independent values but I must have been looking at a cached representation. Using WGM to code on one host and dscl to observe on another, some of the properties are indeed different keys to the same value.


NetInfo is represented in the same way. NFSHomeDirectory there is home.. HomeDirectory (which is apple-homeurl in LDAP) is home_loc in NetInfo*.

On my system, in /NetInfo/root/Users/<username> there's only the "Apple" variety of any key listed. I suppose that's because NetInfo's only going to be accessed by systems expecting something which looks a bit like a passwd file, like OS X, NeXTSTEP, SunOS and so on. I've never tried Jaguar's Netinfo-to-LDAP service to see what that offers up.


This abstraction allows Mac OS X to interoperate with a wide set of directory services.. like Active Directory or SunOne. This is arguably the most important feature of Mac OS X to IT-centric markets.

Despite the cross-platform nature of LDAP it's actually quite hard to get a bunch of different systems talking, because as soon as any client wants to write back you have to guess not only which attributes you need to change but which ones everyone else expects you to change for them.

That's the whole point of Open Directory.


Does it work that seamlessly when you've got non-Apple clients connecting? That's what I'm trying to discover, and don't think currently works well. For instance I have a few NeXTs and a Sun on my otherwise Mac network; they connect via NFS to the homedir server while everything else uses AFP. I've never let the Sun write into the directory because while WGM more-or-less gets things right when updates are made, from the perspective of making sure the interdependent but unconnected properties all match each other, there'd be extra work if I were using some arbitrary client which connects straight to one of the directory services. Of course the NeXTs don't use LDAP at all but a few hacked copies of passwd mean that various directory services can keep their passwords in sync...



-- Graham Lee GPG Key ID: 01D5B9D8 UNIX Systems Manager, Oxford Physics Practical Course http://users.ox.ac.uk/~wadh1342 01865 273450


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 >Re: NetInfo (From: Graham J Lee <email@hidden>)
 >Re: NetInfo (From: Wes Groleau <email@hidden>)
 >Re: NetInfo (From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: NetInfo (From: "Ronald C.F. Antony" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: NetInfo (From: Graham J Lee <email@hidden>)
 >Re: NetInfo (From: M Bartosh <email@hidden>)



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