I tried turning off Dashboard's devmode and F11 Desktop View is still
cancelled by the widget's calls to widget.system(). This would be a problem
for any widget utilizing AppleScript to the desktop applications (some of
the most useful widgets). There's no logical reason that this should be the
behavior, since the widget.system() calls are only retrieving information
and not changing anything onscreen.
A workaround is needed since this behavior has already shipped in MacOS X.
Below are the widget.system() calls.
Dashboard's devmode is fantastic. It should be made a core feature that is
enabled by default. So many widgets I've seen are far less useful if you
have to search for your F12 key every time you want to just take a glance at
them.
----Original Message Follows----
From: John Louch <email@hidden>
To: Brian Klock <email@hidden>, <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Calling widget.system() and F11 Desktop view
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:25:37 -0800
> It appears that processes with a GUI called through "osascript" cause the
> cancellation of the F11 Desktop View. I tested with 4 different
> widget.system() calls:
> (1) /bin/date
> (2) /bin/ls
> (3) /usr/bin/osascript -->(iTunes)
> (4) /usr/bin/osascript -->(Finder)
> The second two cause F11 Desktop View to cancel while the first two do
not.
What are the scripts that are being called?
>
> Is there any known workaround for this? This could really sink the
> acceptance of a dashboard widget if it disables the F11 Desktop View like
> this. If users want to keep the widget permanently on their desktop,
they
> would have to give up their F11 Desktop View.
>
> Brian
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: John Louch <email@hidden>
> To: Brian Klock <email@hidden>, <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Calling widget.system() and F11 Desktop view
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:01:04 -0800
>
> So it is not widget.system. I just wrote a widget that lets you type
> anything in, and then calls widget.system on it.
>
> I put in some simple commands like ls, etc. And Show Desktop was not
> cancelled. Most likely the widget in question is causing some other app
to
> come to the front which causes show desktop to be canceled.
>
> Thanks,
> jl
>
>> Aha. Yes, I am in developer mode so I can have all of my widgets
showing
>> even without the Dashboard Layer showing. With a widget showing in
>> developer mode, when the widget makes a call to widget.system(), the F11
>> Desktop View is cancelled if it was activated at that moment.
>>
>> (1) Open a widget (one that makes periodic calls to widget.system())
>> (2) Drag it and press the F12 Dashboard Key while you're dragging it
>> (3) Leave the widget visible on the desktop
>> (4) Press F11 Desktop View
>>
>> ----> As soon as the widget makes a call to widget.system(), the F11
> Desktop
>> View is
>> cancelled as if you pressed F11 again
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>> ----Original Message Follows----
>> From: John Louch <email@hidden>
>> To: Brian Klock <email@hidden>,
<email@hidden>
>> Subject: Re: Calling widget.system() and F11 Desktop view
>> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:21:54 -0800
>>
>> I don't understand what you are saying. showing the widget layer
cancels
>> F11, show desktop. Can you give use reproducible steps of your problem?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> jl
>>
>>> Has anyone found a way to prevent calls to widget.system() from
>> cancelling
>>> the F11 Desktop View? I can't think of a reason that Apple would write
>> the
>>> API that way, there must be a good reason I haven't thought up.
>>>
>>> As a user that is quite annoying, with a widget that runs a period
>>> widget.system() script it more or less disables the F11 Desktop View.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
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