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Re: Calling widget.system() and F11 Desktop view

Yeah I know what the problem is.  One workaround is to write a plugin that
calls applescript directly.  I know that is not very nice, but it will work.

Thanks,
jl

> In case it helps, I just discovered that this (simpler test) causes
> the bug:
> 
> 1. Type osascript into Terminal and hit return.
> 
> 2. Press F11.
> 
> 3. Press ^D to type signify the end of osascript's input.
> 
> So it seems that just executing osascript causes Exposé to go away.
> 
> Ben
> 
> On Nov 15, 2005, at 11:09 PM, John Louch wrote:
> 
>> This looks like a bug in osascript.  Please write up a bug.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> jl
>> 
>>> I tried turning off Dashboard's devmode and F11 Desktop View is still
>>> cancelled by the widget's calls to widget.system().  This would be
>>> a problem
>>> for any widget utilizing AppleScript to the desktop applications
>>> (some of
>>> the most useful widgets).  There's no logical reason that this
>>> should be the
>>> behavior, since the widget.system() calls are only retrieving
>>> information
>>> and not changing anything onscreen.
>>> 
>>> A workaround is needed since this behavior has already shipped in
>>> MacOS X.
>>> Below are the widget.system() calls.
>>> 
>>> Dashboard's devmode is fantastic.  It should be made a core
>>> feature that is
>>> enabled by default.  So many widgets I've seen are far less useful
>>> if you
>>> have to search for your F12 key every time you want to just take a
>>> glance at
>>> them.
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> widget.system(
>>> "/usr/bin/osascript"+
>>> " -e 'tell application \"iTunes\"'"+
>>> " -e 'name of current track'"+
>>> " -e 'end tell'",
>>> null);
>>> widget.system(
>>> "/usr/bin/osascript"+
>>> " -e 'tell application \"Finder\"\n"+
>>> "\"\"&startup disk\n"+
>>> "end tell\n'",
>>> null);
>>> widget.system("/bin/date", null);
>>> widget.system("/bin/ls", null);
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----Original Message Follows----
>>> From: John Louch <email@hidden>
>>> To: Brian Klock <email@hidden>, <dashboard-
>>> email@hidden>
>>> Subject: Re: Calling widget.system() and F11 Desktop view
>>> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:25:37 -0800
>>> 
>>>> It appears that processes with a GUI called through "osascript"
>>>> cause the
>>>> cancellation of the F11 Desktop View.  I tested with 4 different
>>>> widget.system() calls:
>>>>     (1)   /bin/date
>>>>     (2)   /bin/ls
>>>>     (3)   /usr/bin/osascript    -->(iTunes)
>>>>     (4)   /usr/bin/osascript    -->(Finder)
>>>> The second two cause F11 Desktop View to cancel while the first
>>>> two do
>>> not.
>>> 
>>> What are the scripts that are being called?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Is there any known workaround for this?  This could really sink the
>>>> acceptance of a dashboard widget if it disables the F11 Desktop
>>>> View like
>>>> this.  If users want to keep the widget permanently on their
>>>> desktop,
>>> they
>>>> would have to give up their F11 Desktop View.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----Original Message Follows----
>>>> From: John Louch <email@hidden>
>>>> To: Brian Klock <email@hidden>, <dashboard-
>>>> email@hidden>
>>>> Subject: Re: Calling widget.system() and F11 Desktop view
>>>> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:01:04 -0800
>>>> 
>>>> So it is not widget.system.  I just wrote a widget that lets you
>>>> type
>>>> anything in, and then calls widget.system on it.
>>>> 
>>>> I put in some simple commands like ls, etc.  And Show Desktop was
>>>> not
>>>> cancelled.  Most likely the widget in question is causing some
>>>> other app
>>> to
>>>> come to the front which causes show desktop to be canceled.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> jl
>>>> 
>>>>> Aha.  Yes, I am in developer mode so I can have all of my widgets
>>> showing
>>>>> even without the Dashboard Layer showing.  With a widget showing in
>>>>> developer mode, when the widget makes a call to widget.system(),
>>>>> the F11
>>>>> Desktop View is cancelled if it was activated at that moment.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (1) Open a widget (one that makes periodic calls to widget.system
>>>>> ())
>>>>> (2) Drag it and press the F12 Dashboard Key while you're
>>>>> dragging it
>>>>> (3) Leave the widget visible on the desktop
>>>>> (4) Press F11 Desktop View
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----> As soon as the widget makes a call to widget.system(), the
>>>>> F11
>>>> Desktop
>>>>> View is
>>>>>          cancelled as if you pressed F11 again
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brian
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----Original Message Follows----
>>>>> From: John Louch <email@hidden>
>>>>> To: Brian Klock <email@hidden>,
>>> <email@hidden>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Calling widget.system() and F11 Desktop view
>>>>> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:21:54 -0800
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't understand what you are saying.  showing the widget layer
>>> cancels
>>>>> F11, show desktop.  Can you give use reproducible steps of your
>>>>> problem?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> jl
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Has anyone found a way to prevent calls to widget.system() from
>>>>> cancelling
>>>>>> the F11 Desktop View?  I can't think of a reason that Apple
>>>>>> would write
>>>>> the
>>>>>> API that way, there must be a good reason I haven't thought up.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As a user that is quite annoying, with a widget that runs a period
>>>>>> widget.system() script it more or less disables the F11 Desktop
>>>>>> View.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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