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Re: [Fed-Talk] Tiger and Exchange and Mail.app, oh my



Also, at least in our agency IMAP is disabled by default on all of the exchange servers... I had to specifically request it be enabled on our local exchange.

Other facilities in our agency don't seem to know how to do that, so I pimp out our exchange address to other mac users in need of IMAP with Exchange.

Now we have a small "entourage fans against apple mail fans" going on since Tiger was released. Many former Entourage users want apple mail now because of Spotlight. I also feel Apple Mail is superior looking, acting, and faster, but that's just me.

The issue we have is Entourage WILL connect without IMAP enabled, so now we have to justify WHY we need imap enabled, and the common answer is "use entourage" which is not acceptable to me.

Mike

On May 5, 2005, at 9:17 AM, Brian Raymond wrote:

If you are using Exchange then authenticating to the SMTP server can only
help resolve your problem even if your admin says it isn't required. From
your email Exchange is doing exactly what it's supposed to, not relay
unauthenticated mail to any domains not marked as "incoming" or explicitly
called out.


In Mail.app edit your SMTP server and select authentication. For the
username use domain\username and Mail.app will authenticate before sending
any mail. You migt also be able to use your userPrincipalName
(email@hidden) but since you are doing a legacy migration I'd
suggest sticking to the NetBIOS method of domain\username for now.


Actually I should have simply stated, use the same credentials you entered
for the incoming server since you can receive mail. :)


I did want to mention something about the "Exchange" vs. IMAP accounts in
Mail.app. Apple decided to use OWA and IMAP with the Exchange account to
filter out Exchange specific mails which for me meant it wouldn't show some
meeting requests. This was the case with 10.3 so I'm not sure if it is still
hosed up with 10.4 but I'd be careful using the Exchange mode vs. a standard
IMAP account. I was hoping they finally went the WebDAV route like Entourage
with the Exchange accounts for 10.4 but no such luck.



- Brian


On 5/5/05 11:04 AM, "Ide, Douglas Mr USACFSC" <email@hidden>
wrote:



Hoping someone on this list might be able to help me out. I've tried other
solutions talked about on this list, but nothing has worked. Was hoping
Tiger and Mail.app would finally solve the problems, but it hasn't.


Anyway, like everyone else, we're migrating to active directory. We're only
partially there. We still have our Exchange 5.5 server, and will for the
foreseeable future.


I can set up Mail to retrieve my email from my Exchange account (as an
exchange account) no problem (although syncing is terribly slow), but I
can't send any email outside of my building. I can send email within my
building fine, but not outside the building, not even to .mil addresses.
Same thing happens if I set it up as an IMAP account.


My Exchange admin (who is always helpful, but just can't figure this out)
says that I need no authentication to send email. When I had Panther and
Mail, and before we began the AD migration, I used to get an error message
that relaying was prohibited. My admin said he allowed relaying for me
specifically, and it still didn't work. Still got the same error message.
Now I just get a very generic error message that doesn't really say anything
other than I can't send the email (not helpful!).


I've also tried to set up AKO as my SMTP server, that hasn't worked either.

Any ideas out there? Anyone have any idea what my Exchange admin might be
missing?


Any help/suggestions appreciated.

Thanks,

Doug Ide
Public Affairs Officer
U.S. Army Community & Family Support Center
Alexandria, VA 22302
703-681-1548
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