I hate to point it out, but Microsoft and many others already have a DV
type protocol specified and released. It has been available and
implemented since Windows XP SP1.
http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/USB_Video_Class_1_1.zip
It looks most comprehensive and even has a DV payload format intended to
make it easier for camera vendors to switch their hardware.
Regards
Johann Scholtz
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005, Milton Aupperle wrote:
> Hi Alan;
>
> I can confirm this perception form a variety of people at various
> technical levels (i.e end users, hardware clients, Mac developers, PC
> developers). The fact that Apple doens't have FW800 ports on 1/2 the
> Macs the sell and now doesn't have it on it's iPods is not
> encouraging. Also with the x86 switch and the closer ties to Intel
> (developer of USB) can't be good for Firewwire's existence going
> forward.
>
> All we need is Intel or Sony to come out with a AVC/61883 DV type
> protocol for USB and it ill be all over for FireWire.
>
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> On 23-Oct-05, at 10:35 AM, Alan Perry wrote:
>
> >
> > So, as if to drive my point home, yesterday a friend of mine who is
> > a Mac developer came over to borrow a Firewire cable yesterday and
> > commented "Apple seems to be backing away on their support for
> > Firewire". I said nothing to solicit this comment; I was just
> > going through my box of cables offering him a choice of cable lengths.
> >
> > alan
> >
> > Alan Perry wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I never saw the discussion in terms of whether iPod is a vehicle
> >> to promote FireWire. That's would be like saying that iPod is a
> >> vehicle to promote USB. FireWire and USB are just ways that you
> >> connect iPods to a device to load songs onto them.
> >>
> >> At one point Apple thought that the way that you should do it is
> >> FireWire. Then it became FireWire and USB. Now it is USB. Not
> >> sure how one could read anything into this other than Apple
> >> backing off its commitment to FireWire.
> >>
> >> alan
> >>
> >> Eric Anderson wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> While it is (or was) tempting to think of iPod as a vehicle to
> >>> promote FireWire, that's not why Apple makes iPod - not even close.
> >>>
> >>> You will be (I hope!) happy to know that there has been no change
> >>> in the FireWire team at Apple; we are hard at work on future
> >>> products, and in the near term, an SDK update for folks using the
> >>> Developer Transition Kit.
> >>>
> >>> Eric
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 21, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Alan Perry wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Apple's removal of FireWire from the iPod is sending a message
> >>>> about their commitment to FireWire. Apple's commitment to
> >>>> FireWire has a big impact of those of us who work on FireWire
> >>>> products.
> >>>>
> >>>> alan
> >>>>
> >>>> Eric Anderson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The new iPod does not use FireWire (except I believe it can
> >>>>> charge from FireWire). FireWire fans of course may be sad to
> >>>>> see the change, but it's difficult to argue that FireWire would
> >>>>> making a difference for the majority of iPod customers today -
> >>>>> aside from adding cost and weight.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Was the professional audio world and TV / Movie industry using
> >>>>> iPod's FireWire port in some way?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Eric
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Oct 21, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Ed Karns wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Is Apple dropping iPod FireWire support? ( http://
> >>>>>> blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=13 / " ... shocked and amazed that
> >>>>>> Apple has abandoned FireWire on the just-announced fifth
> >>>>>> generation iPods with video. ... )
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It seems that almost the entire professional audio world and
> >>>>>> the professional TV / Movie industry is embracing
> >>>>>> FireWire ... and Apple is cutting FireWire out of the
> >>>>>> flagship iPod line?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ed Karns
> >>>>>> FireWireStuff.com
> >>>>>> Added References: http://www.apple.com/ipod/autosync.html /
> >>>>>> " ... recharge the battery and sync files fast via the
> >>>>>> included USB cable. ..."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >
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