Re: Java Performance on Mac (re: beating upon a very dead horse)

• Subject: Re: Java Performance on Mac (re: beating upon a very dead horse)
• From: Daniel Hansen <email@hidden>
• Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 18:06:39 -0600

On Sunday, July 27, 2003, at 06:10 PM, email@hidden wrote:

Btw, I agree that Java on the Mac is much slower than on Windows. I find it
amazing so many diehard Apple developers are in denial about this.

Oh, I'm not in denial about this. The 2.4Ghz P4 I use at work runs my java applications a lot faster than the G4 I use at home.

But the difference here is that I'm sufficiently enlightened to realize a few things.

1. Apple got beaten badly in the CPU race the last few years. The G5 should improve the situation soon. There is only so much performance that you can get out of 1Ghz compared to 3Ghz.

2. Java on OSX is still new compared to Java on Windows. Again, time will help here, as Apple engineers continue to improve the state of Java on the Macintosh. Unlike some people here, I believe that there are certain people at Apple who are trying their best to make Java on OSX the best around. But there is only so much work they can do in a day.

3. If you need the absolute fastest performance out of Java today. Buy a Windows machine.

4. Given Windows instability, bugs, virus-prone behavior. Given that Microsoft is only interested in locking their users up in a Microsoft-managed DRM, platform-centric living hell with all the earlier problems I mentioned along with an whole kit and kaboodle of annoyances that comes with using Windows, I'm more than happy to live up with a few seconds speed deficit that I get with doing my type of Java development on my OSX machine. And in return, I get to use an operating system that is _overall_ so much better and more pleasurable to use than Windows.

5. Investing in the Macintosh and giving helpful feedback to the Java team, can only maintain or improve the state of Java. Investing in a Intel machine and Windows, or posting generalized whining and FUD does nothing to improve the situation of Java on the Macintosh.

Thats just my opinion, and thats the only opinion that counts for me. :)

-tim
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