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Re: Mac OS X Java Performance

First of all, I'd like to thank all of you for the thoughtful responses. They are prompting me to summarize them and put them on a blog like the Java.net blog or the O'Reilly blog. Let me know if you feel this would be a bad idea. I'd not expose names etc but summarize the results.

Secondly, I finally came to grips with the problem in the following way. Lets think about the various cross-platform successes: Python, Perl, Tck/TK, Apache, Mozilla, Flash, MySQL, Acrobat, etc. They all share an interesting characteristic: they are centrally managed by a single organization. True, the open source solutions are more diverse, but nowhere is it assumed that the platform vendor/provider (Microsoft, Apple, Sun, .. even Linux) would do the port.

Sun, however, created the worst possible compromise: Sun owns the source and the vendor/provider must optimize the reference implementation. It seems to me there are two simple choices: Sun continue the closed ownership of the source AND implements for all platforms (like for example Flash) or they open source Java and manage the various implementations in an centralized manner.

I realize this is a LONG way from the simple performance issue previously discussed, but for me, it helps explain how we got in this mess. Apple is the only platform provider assumed to bear the brunt of providing their own implementation. MS certainly can do so if they want, but Sun is there with a *very* performant version as backup.

If I had my choice of a brilliant Apple implementation or an open source approach to Java, I'd take the latter. And I bet my Mac OS X implementation would be really fast too!

Owen Densmore 451 Camino Don Miguel Santa Fe, NM 87505
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