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Re: Mac OS X Java Performance

On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 08:30 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:

On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 11:15 PM, Lucas Holt wrote:

Sun ports java to platforms it likes or considers important. I bet they wouldn't support linux except that they are using it on some server products.

Sun doesn't make money on java, only selling computers. (most people don't buy their ide or server products) Why waste money porting?

This is exactly the point! I wasn't too clear, however. Basically I feel it is unrealistic on Sun's part to expect the platform providers to port Java without using the open source approach. If java were open source, I have a hunch the BSD implementation would be available today!

Perhaps. It would be a very nice idea, at the least, and one I could get behind.

Heck, the biggest problem with Java3D, mayitrestinpeace, was that Apple was not legally able to even comment on the source, let alone implement it, without a rather expensive license AND a nasty time commitment. Were we (developers) able to implement such a beast legally, we might have had a working 3D scene graph product a long time ago.

Put another way, were Sun to open source big chunks of Java, and let people submit patches, we would likely all see much, much better performance on all platforms. Certainly, there have been problems in every release that could easily have been fixed at the source level, and for which no patch return mechanism existed to accept patches back. Heck, by the time we see 1.5 beta 1, lots of design decisions are set in stone, and that is a pain if they are bad decisions.

Scott
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