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Re: ObjC vs Java -- NEWBIE

On Feb 5, 2004, at 11:39 AM, email@hidden wrote:

Jim Hagen wrote:
| Ryan's biggest problem with Objective-C is going to be that he's not an
| experienced C programmer. For him, the most difficult parts of
| Objective-C are likely to actually be C, once he wraps his head around
| the Smalltalk-like method syntax.

There'll also be the completely different approach to memory management, as Objective-C doesn't use garbage collection.

Glen Fisher

Should I ask how that's different from being a problem in C ? No, I shouldn't. And I'm definitely stepping away from any statements about Objective-C and memory management. Search the archives for that thread... reference counting != garbage collection... back away from the bait...

On Feb 5, 2004, at 1:13 PM, Ruffin Bailey wrote:

RAELbasic is not nearly as low-level as C nor as mature when it comes to object oriented programming as Java, but is a great way to get an undecompilable (new word alert!) app bundle that'll go xplat fairly quickly. You can even put in conditional code to reference dll's you've created in VB6 or COM-wrapped .NET assemblies.

Ruffin makes the point that Ryan might want to look at other cross-platform development environments as well... *if* he's looking to program in something other than Java, which I'm not sure why he'd go there, buzzwords aside ( is anything *really* 'undecompilable', given that it's all 1's and 0's? ) and dll's don't sound any more cross-platform than GNUStep, though using some existing code may have merit, it may fail the xlpat goal... given that he's experienced in Java, he should probably continue to use it unless there's a very compelling reason to do otherwise. There's also xplat 'fairly quickly' v.s. xplat 'without a recompile' v.s. writing two apps in different languages to do the same thing targeted to different environments... pick your goals, then your design, then your tools, or use the tools you have and pick the design you can succeed in building.
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