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Re: Netbeans 4.0 beta and french keyboard



Hi Henry,

Perhaps Ukelele (<http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=ukelele&_sc=1>) can help with remapping the keyboard into something usable. I haven't tried it myself, but it looks promising.

HTH,
Travis

--On Friday, September 24, 2004 2:40 PM +0200 Henry Story <email@hidden> wrote:

Thanks Bjorn,

My hunch is that this is a problem with the Apple keyboard. The alt key
plays a dual role on this keyboard:

	- it acts as the character compose key, which one needs to press in the
same way as
	the SHIFT key to get a different character when one presses a key with a
dual 	meaning. For example since there is no { one needs to press
compose-( to get it. I
	get the euro sign by pressing compose-$
	- it also acts as the alt key

This is bound to lead to confusion for applications that try to use Alt
the same way as the control key, since there is logically no way of
distinguishing between the two uses mentioned above.

There is another key on the french OSX keyboard for which I see
absolutely not use of and which seems to me to have been designed to be
the compose key. It is located right besides the arrow keys and two
buttons next to the space key. It's symbol is a ^ with a little line
above it. As far as I can work out it only generates a new line when
pressed. If it were easy to remap the apple keyboard then I would remap
this key to the compose key, and try to have the alt key only generate
the Alt call and not also the compose call.

I tried this with ucontrol [1] but it does not give one this level of
control. I can remap the <^ with a little line above it> key which
uControl calls the enter key to the alt-compose key. But this does not
help split the alt and the compose functionality.

Perhaps someone knows better ways to access the keyboard mappings. On
Unix there is a very nice tool called xkeycaps[2], which I found
incredibly useful in my past 8 years using linux/unix. It allows one very
precise control of the key sequences.

Henry Story

[1] http://gnufoo.org/ucontrol
[2] http://www.jwz.org/xkeycaps/


On 24 Sep 2004, at 13:21, Bjørn Ole Bakke wrote:

Hello I have the same problem using norwegian keyboard
Tim Boudreau is currently working on a fix - here is what he said last
time i got a mail from him.

"We're still working on a patch for the norwegian keybinding problem -
going to try to duplicate Apple's hacks and I'll either reproduce the
problem on my mac and test it, or send a copy of editor.jar to you, to
test, or both. "
...
"So, hang in there, we'll get this fixed for 4.0 release."



-Bjorn
På 24. sep. 2004 kl. 12.05 skrev Henry Story:

Hi,

I have a french keyboard on my Apple laptop (17", 1GB RAM), and
cannot get Netbeans 4 to display the '{' or '}' character. These
characters are generated by pressing the alt-( and alt-) key
combinations. I had this exact same problem with an early release of
IntelliJ. They fixed it after I pointed out the problem to them.

It's a little difficult to work with java without those characters :-/

Henry

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References: 
 >Netbeans 4.0 beta and french keyboard (From: Henry Story <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Netbeans 4.0 beta and french keyboard (From: Bjørn Ole Bakke <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Netbeans 4.0 beta and french keyboard (From: Henry Story <email@hidden>)



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