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Re: Java 1.5 and tiger



if you paid for ADC select membership you can test
latest Apple's Java 5 implementation
that release is in a pretty good shape (my opinion)
at least all our GUI applications run good enough.
but we do have problems with Java 5 implementation on Linux
so far our applications run much better on Macintosh (J2SE 5) and PC (Windows) (J2SE 5)
than on PC(Linux) (J2SE 5)


so I already gave my money to Apple
and I'm really satisfied what I got for my money
if Java 5 is really important for your organization or for your business
I would recommend to buy select membership so you can work with your beloved :-)
Java 5
first DP was released in November and you could polish your applications for almost 5 months now
and reports bugs to Apple to help them to resolve all issues (just like we did)
and I have to say Apple's engineers really fixed many problems that we reported
we started with permanent crashing in November/December
but now we have practically flawless running of our applications


bottom line: $500 is good price for what you get, especially if your organization will pay for it
and it should if Java on Macintosh is really important for your organization


BTW: as you may know Britannica Encyclopedia software is pretty good (and huge)
Java GUI application and it does have a problem with Java 5 (I believe on Windows platform too)
but they definitely will fix it (that related to XML parsing) for 2006 release
what I want to say that majority of client software are not ready for Java 5 yet
(it usually takes ~ 1 year) so Apple isn't late especially that I believe final
Apple's Java 5 implementation will correspond to SUN Java 5 Update 2 release




On Apr 12, 2005, at 11:31 AM, Michael Rasmussen wrote:

  I'm resolved.  Apple is not getting any of my money for Tiger until
it includes Java 1.5.  That was the only major feature of Tiger that
would have justified me buying it, and since it is not there, I won't
pay.  If 1.5 is important to you, I encourage you to do the same.


Dmitry Markman

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