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Re: Tiger to ship on April 29



(shrug) that all strikes me as a lawyer's interpretation. I agree that I wouldn't bet my life that Java 1.5 will be in Tiger, but the evidence points in that direction.

Another piece of evidence (for me) is that Apple developer support told me that the Font AffineTransform bug, which was introduced with Apple's port of 1.4.0 two years ago, "has been resolved and will be available when Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4) is made available to the public." Which doesn't exactly state, but indicates strongly enough for my taste, that the fix is in Java 1.5.0.

In any event, we'll all know one way or another on the 29th.

Jim.

On 12-Apr-05, at 9:26 AM, Glen Fisher wrote:

Jim Douglas wrote:
| Apple says pretty clearly here that OS X 10.4 Tiger includes Java 1.5.0
| Tiger:
|
| http://developer.apple.com/java/faq/
|
| 2: Where is Java 1.5 (J2SE 5.0)?
|
| Developer Preview 5 of J2SE 5.0 Release 1 is now available at the ADC
| Download Site. The preview requires Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger Build 8A393,
| also available on the ADC Download Site to seed key holders. Access to
| pre-release Apple software is discussed in the ADC Frequently Asked
| Questions. There are currently no plans to release J2SE 5.0 for Mac OS
| X Panther or any earlier releases.


No, that doesn't say that OS 10.4 includes Java 1.5. It says quite the
opposite, that (the beta for) Tiger *doesn't* include (the beta for) Java
1.5. If it did, there'd be no need to download the two separately. In any
case, "A requires B" (here, Java 1.5 requires OS 10.4) doesn't imply that "B
(OS 10.4) includes A (Java 1.5)". (GarageBand requires 10.3, but if you buy
10.3, you'll discover that the box doesn't include a copy of GarageBand.)


As well, the quote describes *beta* software, and no conclusions about the
final release can be drawn from that. (Apple has been known to leave out of
the released version features present in the betas.)


The only hard information there about Java 1.5 is that Apple has no plans to
release it for anything *before* 10.4.


Glen Fisher

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