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Re: Still an Apple JVM on Intel based Macs?



Probably best to take that "benchmark" with a giant grain of salt. Without taking a look at the code, and knowing the render path in the different JVMs, it's tough to know exactly what this is actually measuring.

Here's some stats from my new Quad G5 with GeForce 7800:

java version "1.5.0_06"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-93)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_06-55, mixed mode, sharing)

Version 1.0.0
Ave:56.302 rpm
Max:57.69 rpm
Min:55.27 rpm
TotalRevolutions: 10 times

java version "1.4.2_09"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_09-232)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2-54, mixed mode)

Version 1.0.0
Ave:91.821 rpm
Max:96.23 rpm
Min:88.56 rpm
TotalRevolutions: 11 times

java version "1.3.1_16"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.3.1_16- root_1.3.1_050718-17:36)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.3.1_09-82, mixed mode)


Version 1.0.0
Ave:675.586 rpm
Max:5714.28 rpm
Min:115.71 rpm
TotalRevolutions: 104 times



On Jan 16, 2006, at 1:56 PM, Greg Guerin wrote:

Tsutomu Yano wrote:

I don't know a JVM on Intel Mac is Apple's or Sun's, but I found on a
japanese site that graphics performance of intel Mac's JVM has been
incredibly increased.

Graphics performance in Java has always depended on the video/graphics
hardware. Search the archives for a long history of past complaints about
iBooks and PowerBooks with slow graphics, even when they have fast CPUs.
When I ran the same tests on my desktop 500 MHz G4, I frequently saw
distinctly better performance, sometimes 5X or more, even when my CPU was
outpaced by 2X or more.


The Intel-based iMac's video/graphics specs are quite good, and its
front-side bus is also several times faster than any prior Mac laptops.
FSB-speed is another significant barrier to laptop performance.



New JVM on intel core duo is faster than a Sun's JVM on AMD Athlon64 3200+ !!

Without knowing what the video/graphics hardware was in each of the test
cases, it's difficult to draw any solid conclusions about Java. Yes, the
graphics are measurably and consistently faster, but it might have little
or nothing to do with the JVM itself, or even the Intel CPU.


On Mac OS X, this Terminal command tells you CPU and FSB speed, among other
things:
sysctl hw


Or to see it nicely sorted:
  sysctl hw | sort

The 'sysctl' command won't list video/graphics hardware identifiers, so use
System Profiler for that.


  -- GG


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