I would LOVE to see that. Personally I think - for everything Apple
does right - they've really dropped the ball on support for Java. One
of the reasons I BOUGHT the mac was Java support. To see them take as
long as they did to release *any* version of Java 6 was -
disheartening. At No Fluff Just Stuff one of the presenters had to
run Fusion on his mac to be able to do his Java 6 talks.
As Java becomes more open I'm hoping to see Sun take the reins on this
and do something about it. I'm *hoping* but I don't think they will.
I think they have bigger issues these days.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Geoffrey Rekier <email@hidden> wrote:
> I've actually heard rumors that the Java effort for Mac will move to Sun. So
> I understand the lacks. But it is only rumors.
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Geoffrey
>
>
>
> On 30 Apr 2008, at 09:40, Jeremy E. Denton wrote:
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > So, my MacBook is coming up on it's second birthday and it happily runs
> Leopard. In my 20-year history of using Apple products, I finally have a
> consistent backup of my personal data thanks to Time Machine. It's
> brilliant!
> >
> > My laptop is a 2.0GHz Core Duo. I find myself a tad dismayed that because
> I'm an early adopter of the new MacBook line, I am unable to run a
> development platform that is 17 months old. My MacBook would have been
> about 6 months old had Java 6 been released on the Mac along with other
> major platforms in December 2006. Additionally, beta versions of Java 6 were
> out before I even purchased my MacBook.
> >
> > I have to admit that I am a bit tired of being subject to Apple's whims.
> As a developer, I cannot conceive of any significant technical challenges
> within Java between 32 and 64 bit processors. Java 6 works with both
> processors for other platforms.
> >
> > If it's not a technical challenge, then it appears to be a change of
> Apple's commitment to Java being a first-class development environment of
> Mac OS X. This seems to be enforced by dismissive comments from Apple's iCEO
> about Java on the iPhone.
> >
> > My uncertainty and doubt leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I fear that
> Apple's choice of silence will continue to hurt it's developers. This smacks
> of behaviours more typical of Apple's competitors. While this is
> speculation, without any comment from Apple, all I can do is wonder.
> >
> > Unfortunately, the best thing that this public release has provided is the
> convenience to discuss the current Java situation on this forum without fear
> of breaking an NDA of our developer accounts.
> >
> > Are we going to wait for Apple to delay Java 7 for some indeterminate
> period after 10.6 is released? Only to be eventually released on a subset of
> the most recent hardware that is available?
> >
> > I am not so much commenting on Apple's business decisions. Apple is a
> business and it has to make decisions according to what will promote it's
> continued financial success. Java can be an independent project.
> >
> > Ideally, I would love to see Apple release it's port of Java 6 as a part
> of the Java open source initiative. If Apple has decided to focus on other
> endeavours, then it should let go and allow the larger community to aide in
> the development of Java as it has with projects like Bonjour and Webkit.
> >
> > Setting aside Apple's involvement, SoyLatte has made some significant
> progress as an independent project but the last contribution was made about
> 2 months ago. Is there continued interest in working on SoyLatte?
> >
> > What I am hoping is to continue to encourage a course of action that
> secures Java's future on Mac OS X at a time where there's a risk of "close
> enough"-style apathy stalling what momentum has been built. This "release"
> of Java 6 shouldn't be motivation to upgrade a computer less than 2 years
> old.
> >
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > A Concerned Developer.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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