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Re: Release Notes (was: Java for Mac OS X 10.5 Update 2 & Java for Mac OS X 10.4, Release 7)



On Sep 25, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Alexei Svitkine wrote:


If you notice, that particular item has no resolution or work-around.

How is one to read these release notes?

I have bugs (Leopard Java regressions) filed in radar that are not resolved, yet not listed in the release notes as "known issues".

What does that mean?

The ones we have called out were issues we thought were likely to impact a large number of Java developers, particularly since this bug is so visible to end users who move up to Java SE 6, and there is no way for the Java team to fix it.


And for some of them, I've had to implement some hackish work- arounds when running on Leopard that I really don't want to keep in my app - while others have no work-arounds, and simply give my app a worse user-experience due to Apple's bugs.

For instance, problem 5993869, in which a modal dialog in Leopard Java would not disable menu items in the main menubar. So in a modal dialog, you can hit Cmd-Q - have the menu get highlighted as if you've activated the quit item - and have nothing at all happen! It didn't used to be this way on Tiger.

Another issue - 5739678 - incorrectly repaints a blinking cursor in text fields of certain sizes - causing visible problems. Again, a regression in Leopard Java.

Another issue - 5952212 - makes code-signing - a practice recommended by Apple for all new Mac apps - impossible if using Leopard's JavaApplicationStub.

And there's others.

Why are some things listed as "known issues" and others not - while still being opened bugs in radar?

Can't Apple at least acknowledge the existence of these bugs?

While two of the bugs are regressions from Tiger behavior, and the third is an unavailable feature at this time, the impact to customers is not as obvious as "the whole window is the wrong color".


Hope this helps explain,
Mike Swingler
Java Runtime Engineer
Apple Inc.
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