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Re: Airport NAT behavior



On Mar 24, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Tim Dorcey wrote:

I have noticed that for UDP traffic the Airport NAT appears to operate as a
"Symmetric NAT," in the terminology of RFC3489. This means that a single
internal (address,UDP port) is mapped to multiple public ports, a different
one for each remote (address,port) it is interacting with. I wonder if
anyone can explain the rationale for this?

Wow that is really aweful if true, since I just spent the last 3 years writing tunneling software to go through NATs to prevent the suckage that is online gaming today (having to open ports manually, which involves chatting with your friend all afternoon, with a 50/50 chance of ending in failure), and that is probably the main router people will be using. Just so everyone knows, symmetric NAT is by far the worst of all mappings, because it's the only one you can't get around with standard UDP calls, even with a main tracker server somewhere to pair up peers. Some claim it is for "security", so it is arguably a "feature", but this is like saying that having to call your boss to open the door on your car so you can let a friend in is for "security". I do seem to remember my friends having a lot of trouble getting some p2p stuff working with the airport, although I might be remembering wrong. Does anybody have anymore details on this, especially instructions for making the 1:1 request, and if it requires admin privileges on either the computer or router? Thanx,


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