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Re: Server cost compare

Truely it may not be for everyone. For someone like me that is paying for
co-location rack space, the idea of fitting say 6 or possibly 8 towers into the
same space I could in theory put 30 or 40 Xserves, the cost savings works out
well. Also I can't get onsite warranty with the normal tower. Yes, it remains
to be seen on Apple's IDE drive setup, but I have not had a problem with Sun
X1's (and now Sunfire V100's that have IDE drives though not hot swap...though
Sun charges $250 for a 40gig HD that is not hot swap but you need the tray it
comes with to not void onsite warranty.. fun fun... :)

It all depends on your needs on if it saves you money or not. To some a tower
outfitted like you want might be a better choice for others that have limited
space the Xserve is perfect and the server monitoring helps when dealing with
dozens (or more) of them in a data center as well..

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 18:11:53 -0500
"Heath Henderson" <email@hidden> wrote:
> Yes. This is all true. It is at an Education rate.
>
> But even at Raid 1 I am more comfortable with the speed and reliability of
> the drives
> per the price than going with the IDE options.
> I don't understand how Apple can charge so much for those drives. I priced
> the similar drives at a much lower cost.
> Although you still have to be able to buy the mounting frame. The SCSI
> option even without the U160 card is still cheaper to build by about a 100
> bucks than the Xserve.
>
> I am just pointing out that Apple was so nice to give us a new "server" but
> the cost doesn't seem to have helped
> me out any.
>
> Heath Henderson
> Assistant Technology Administrator
> McLean County Unit 5 Schools
> Normal, IL
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "N. Lyne" <email@hidden>
> To: "Heath Henderson" <email@hidden>;
> <email@hidden>
> Cc: <email@hidden>
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Server cost compare
>
>
> >
> > > Compared
> > >
> > > Tower G4 DP 512MB ram $2203 to Xserve G4 DP 512MB ram 3679.
> > > Tower comes with 80 gb IDE ---- Xserve comes with 60gb IDE
> > > Add ATTO SCSI for $417 ---- Xserve add U160 Card for $180
> > > Add 2 36gb SCSI raid 1 $788 ---- Xserve add 2nd 60 gb IDE $315
> > > Add OSX Server UNL. $499 ---- Xserve comes with UNL. OSXS
> > >
> > > Total cost Tower = $3907.00
> > >
> > > Total cost Tower = $4174.00
> > >
> > > Now, I don't know about you, but the Tower seems like a better deal.
> You
> > > get 152GB of Storage space vs. 120. You also get SCSI I/O vs the IDE
> I/O if
> > > you remove the IDE drive from the Tower setup. I also would rather have
> the
> > > Dual Channel ATTO card than the card that may come with the Xserve. I
> am
> > > limited by the nice Utils I get with the Xserve and not with the OSXS
> boxed
> > > set. But I am willing to take that for the other gains. I wonder why
> apple
> > > doesn't sell that server any longer. Seems like some of us can only
> afford
> > > so much and they are not really compensating the boxes for the price.
> You
> > > get much less in the Xserve than you did with the tower. On top of that
> I
> > > would like a 1U server, but not at that cost.
> >
> > My question is why did you add the U160 card to the Xserve when you are
> not
> > using it? Upgrade the included 60gig Xserve drive to 120 and add a second
> > 120gig drive to run a RAID 1 off of... Cost would probably come out lower
> on
> > the Xserve (or just as close with more drive space, minus the U160 card
> you are
> > not using.)
> >
> > Also you are quoting drive space that is available but if you are putting
> those
> > 36gig drives in a RAID 1 you are not ending up with 116 in the Tower
> compared
> > to the 120 in the RAID 1 if you upgraded the Xserve to two 120 drives...
> Also
> > the nice part on the Xserve if you are running server that needs uptime is
> that
> > if a drive died in your RAID 1 on the Xserve you just swap the drive, on
> your
> > tower setup you would have to bring it down to swap the drives...
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