I highly recommend SurgeMail. We're using it with much success. It has
many
great features including spam filtering, SSL support for all protocols,
and
domain delegation. Very nice package for the price. I'd say it's
feature set
is almost as complete as CGP.
Also, the support is top notch and the development team is always eager
to
implement feature requests.
Regards,
Aaron
On Oct 27, 2004, at 10:18 AM, Joel Rennich wrote:
As much as I like the postfix/cyrus combo on OS X Server, it is not,
nor has it ever been, a good solution for someone hosting an ISP.
The fact that it doesn't handle virtual domains/users and you can't
delegate control of virtual domains are two of the many factors that
prohibit it's use. Tiger will fix some of this, but I still wouldn't
really suggest it for someone who truly wants to run a black-box mail
server.
But let's face it, I don't know of any server operating system that
comes out of the box with an ISP-level mail solution built-in. If
you're making money off of being an ISP you should expect to have to
put at least a little into it.
As mentioned before, Communigate really shines here, but now that they
have integrated the Exchange connector with the product they have
dramatically increased the pricing. If your revenue stream is decent
enough I'd still highly recommend CGP, especially as you can make
money off of reselling the calendar/groupware services.
Other options that are of interest:
1. As mentioned before on this list George Szekely has a very nice pkg
installer for exim/courier with a mysql backend. It's free, and will
do great for no-frills ISP setups. However, if you're charging money
to host you're probably looking for something more. Find it here:
http://maxo.captainnet.net/installs/index.html
2. Surgemail is a real interesting contender. It's dirt cheap, like
$600 for 10,000 users ( and $2k for cluster which is very very
reasonable) and has many CGP-like features, including the ability to
delegate domains. I haven't had a chance to do much with it, but I'd
be real curious to hear from anyone who is. http://www.surgemail.com
3. Kerio is of interest. It's not really great for ISP's yet, since it
has no domain delegation, but if you're looking for Exchange
compatibility, Kerio will do this for a fraction of the price of CGP.
http://www.kerio.com
4. There are quite a few OSS solutions, but none others that have a
pkg installer that I know of. I'd suggest taking a look at
freshmeat.net to see what's out there. These will require a bit of
work to get them up and running, and to keep them running. Again if
you're making money at this or even if you aren't, you probably have
better things to do than babysit updates and things like that, so
certainly look at the other options.
Joel
www.afp548.com
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On Oct 27, 2004, at 11:03 AM, Chris Chapman wrote:
I have to second Steve's question here. I myself am looking to
transition my hosting company to total MacOS X based systems and I
simply cannot accept the future headache of constantly having to
rebuild mailboxes and such - seems like utter silliness to me. I've
never had to do this with my linux/bsd servers - why start now,
right? Is this problem THAT prevalent?
The main attraction to moving to MacOS X as a host OS is the ease of
OS updates and the great hardware. But if this comes at a cost of
availability and uptime, I simply cannot make that move. What are
the other hosting companies using MacOS X out there doing? Are you
having to roll your own solutions, bypassing the built-in server
admin and update features? What are your experiences here? Note,
I'm talking about pure webhosting/email/ftp/dns - no fileserver
functionalities.
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