On 10/27/04 7:58 PM, "Dan Shoop" <email@hidden> wrote:
What I would say is that Mac sysadmins as a group
have less experience dealing with unix systems and are more likely to
have developed bad practices from their classical days.
On Oct 28, 2004, at 10:44 AM, David Schultz wrote:
You SO need to get over yourself.
I think that was a compliment Dan was giving. Mac OS X admins are
learning UNIX in the new secure day and age. We don't leave, by bad
habit, many of the flaws in our systems that old UNIX admins still do.
I.e. Would you leave wide open access to your Mac OS X Server through
telnet to tourist users? No, you would think that was crazy, but that
is exactly how many systems used to be run back in the day. Everything
was in the fun sand box and the admin at U-Mich knew the admin at U-Fla
and would just let people in willy nilly. It was assumed that if you
were on the "network" and had access to the computer that you were
supposed to be there or meant no harm because you were another computer
science guy. Because many of us are learning UNIX now, we don't have
these old holes to fall into.
In addition, UNIX was not designed around security. It was designed in
a world where there were a company would have "the computer" and when
they added the "other computer" they would use NFS to export a
directory from one to the other. A protocol like NFS would probably
never emerge today. It's the old school guys from those days that have
the bad security habits. Not us. For the most part.... :)
Josh
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