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Re: passwd in SU mode?



At 5:56 PM -0400 8/27/05, Tom Limoncelli wrote:
On Aug 27, 2005, at 5:47 PM, Dan Shoop wrote:

It's not that Apple's hiding how passwords are changed, there's been a lot written about how to manually do this, but it's one of an issue of what type of account, what type of password, and what facilities you need running to make those modifications.

I agree with everything you said. However, my point is that if the GUI does it, then they could provide a command line utility that does it. Even if it was called "emergency_password_reset_while_in_single_user_mode_please_dont_use_otherwise" it could be done and would be appreciated.

See "Essential Mac OS X Administation" from O'Reilly. There's quite a good deal of information that Michael provides that describes the utilities for Diretory Services, and the command line tools for user management.


While they do document many things from the command line, they usually come with a disclaimer that says this will void your ability to get support in the future.

Apple Support, either for a new installation, or Premium Support for your server, doesn't cover anything but what you can do in the GUI. That's the only limitation.


For example, a University that would create (for example) 10,000 accounts every Fall Semester is faced with either doing all 10,000 creations via the GUI or using a script that would void their ability to get support in the future. I believe this scares many potential customers away from OpenDirectory.

No it doesn't invalidate support, but this just isn't something covered by support. That is you can write the script and use it (may have, many do.) If you want support for doing this, that's not part of your support agreement, though Apple will refer you to their consulting group if you want to pay for this. If you use methods other than teh GUi and call for support and soemthing goes sideways, one "solution" you may be told to implement is to reinstall to clear up any customized craftwork. But doing things outside the GUI doesn't void your support in any way.


Then again there are plenty of, a hem, companies that provide support beyond what Apple provides on a contact basis ;)
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-dhan

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