Be careful with the counter attack strategy, even though they are not
following the rules, it is against the rules for you to any kind of DOS
on them.
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 13:45, John Zigrang wrote:
> I am going to use one email to respond to a number of issues that have been
> brought up:
> 1. Complain to FCC: Done that. Until there get a few thousand complaints
> they do not have the resources to do any thing.
> 2. Call the marketing company: Have done that. They do not care and have no
> intention of following the FCC rules. They are most likely a bogus company
> that will get as many people to sign up the a bogus health coverage and then
> disappear.
> 3. File Complaints: I have filed the complaints with:
> Department of Consumer Affairs, Department of Insurance, Department of Heath
> Care, two State Attorney Generals, Better Business Bureau in two states.
> This is only a record of the complaint.
> 4. Removal Number does not work.
> 5. Caller ID is blocked or bogus.
> 6. Te get a settlement is have to be a business that wants to stay in
> business. And you have to sue them your self.
> 7. Company Identities are bogus, so email is not an option.
> 8. Fax Broad Caster is hidden.
>
> What is comes down to is this. I can try an sue the Marketer or Fax
> Broadcaster, but I have to find them to do that. Then they have to want to
> stay in business form me to collect if I win.
>
> So my view, is this. They have connected me and give me a number to call. So
> when I call the number it cost them money and it cost the sale person the
> possibility of a missed sale while there talking to me or my message.
> If I flood them with the call, giving them a number to call to stop it. Then
> I should not have broken any FCC rules.
That is breaking FCC rules. You can't flood them or even harass them a
little. This isn't a civil offense, it's criminal.
>
> At this point it is clear that costing the marketing company money and time
> with out taking a lot of mine to do a law suite is more cost effect.
Yet, a law suite against you could be cost effective for them. This is
what we call justice.
>
> I am also spent some time on junkfax.org and other sites. I have been over
> them all. I also feel the just ignoring the problem only allows them to do
> it again and again.
>
>
> Thanks all for you input, but for now I only need a automated message
> sender.
>
>
>
> On 11/8/05 1:00 PM, "Dan Tappin" wrote:
>
> > I used to get wound up over this also. I fought back and ended up
> > being slandered (via fax) by one of these creeps. I find the best
> > thing to do is call the companies advertising and tell them that they
> > are blacklisted from your company for sending junk faxes or simply
> > ignore them.
> >
> > A better use for your Mac is to turn it into a fax machine and save
> > money on paper and toner. You can also then simply email the
> > offending company along with your complaint.
> >
> > Dan T
> >
> > On Nov 8, 2005, at 10:01 AM, John Zigrang wrote:
> >
> >> I am looking to fight back on some bad Telemarketing.
> >> I need to dial a number, send a recorded message in a loop and stop
> >> if they
> >> hang up. Then re-try again and again.
> >>
> >> I will be automating my request to be removed from the this or faxing.
> >> There use to be products on the mac that can do this.
> >> Our there any that run on OS X or I have an old 9.2.2 as well.
> >>
> >> --
> >> John Zigrang
> >> JTZ Engineering, Inc.
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