Maybe one of these days I will remember to send to the list.
I just have to make a comment. Watch out for Dell. We have had nothing
but trouble with our dell servers. We currently own about 50 dell
servers, with more than half are flakey. Random reboots every week.
About 90% of the warranty parts they sent us where bad on arrival. With
that said, the Dell blade servers are not that bad, but can be a pain if
they break. We are currently moving all servers that must be up 99% of
the time to HP servers.
Travis Garrison
Data Storage Systems Administrator
Ozarks Technical Community College
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macos-x-server-bounces+garrisot=email@hidden
> [mailto:macos-x-server-bounces+garrisot=email@hidden] On
Behalf
> Of Paul Nelson
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 4:51 PM
> To: Adam Morey; email@hidden
> Subject: Re: Intel Mac + Windows Server 2003?
>
> I just priced a Dell PowerEdge 1950 (without an OS included just to be
> fair). I got a price of $4592 (no raid, similar hard disk, memory).
>
> This compares with the similar Xserve priced at around $2999.
>
> I don't think you could even touch three Dell 1U servers with *any*
> processor for anywhere near $3K.
>
> You should try pricing a Dell, and see if you get the same price I
did...
>
> Next, I tried to get the cheapest Dell PowerEdge 1950. The price came
out
> to $3167. To get there here is what you lose:
>
> 1 Xeon dual core instead of two (runs at 3.0Ghz though)
> 667 Mhz FSB instead of 1.33Ghz (that's slow!)
> 1Gb 533MHz (2x512MB), Single Ranked DIMMs (instead of 667Mhz)
> No rack hardware
> No remote management card
>
> However, Dell includes 3 years of support with the PowerEdge. Apple
only
> includes the 1 Year hardware warranty (what, no 4Hr 24x7 onsite
support?)
> I did not include redundant power supplies (Dell is $299, Apple=??)
>
> Paul Nelson
> Thursby Software Systems, Inc.
>
>
> on 8/30/06 4:15 PM, Adam Morey at email@hidden wrote:
>
> > I'll bet it runs well, I've found Windows 2003 is noticeably faster
> > performing desktop (and of course server) than XP. Hardware
> > requirements for 2003 are small, even smaller for 2003 R2.
> >
> > It will probably just default to VGA graphics. The other two big
hurdles
> > will be 1. Can it see the hard disk during install? and 2. Will it
find
> > the network card.
> >
> > You can use XP drivers in 2003.
> >
> > I can see it for fun or demos, but as a replacement, that's awfully
> > expensive, considering you could buy two AMD HP Proliant 1U servers
or
> > three Dell boxes for the price of an Xserve. You forgot to factor
in
> > the $500 Apple logo, and of course the titanium faceplate.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > macos-x-server-bounces+amorey=email@hidden
> >
[mailto:macos-x-server-bounces+amorey=email@hidden.
> > com] On Behalf Of Chris Janton
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:07 PM
> > To: email@hidden
> > Subject: Intel Mac + Windows Server 2003?
> >
> > Intel Mac + Windows Server 2003?
> >
> > With Parallels? BootCamp?
> >
> > Intel-based Xserve as replacement for "brand-X" Intel rackmount
servers.
> >
> > 8)
> > ----------------------------------
> > Chris Janton - face at CentosPrime dot COM
> > Netminder for Opus1.COM
> >
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