On 2007-12-22 John C. Welch wrote:
> On Dec 19, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>>> Yeah...now you're modifying /var too. That's a real easy one to
>>> implement on a few thousand machines.
>>
>> Do you really see any significant problem in preparing a NetInstall
>> image with this change? Or doing a scripted rollout through SSH or
>> ARD?
>
> The plural of "hacking around a problem" is not "stable system setup,
> appropriate for the full range of use".
I'll take that as a "no".
> There is a point of diminishing maintainability when you're
> redirecting half of the friggin' file system. Now, you have created a
> massive checklist of non-standard plumbing that makes troubleshooting
> far more tedious than necessary.
Right now we're talking about three (in words "three") changes. That's
quite a long way from "half of the filesystem".
> Face it. Your contention that there were no user - created temp files
> written outside of /tmp and $HOME was wrong. Period.
I already admitted that when I acknowledged that print spools do in fact
pose a problem in a FileVault scenario. Do you actually read what I'm
writing? Or do you just fail to understand it?
[...]
> Now, instead of admitting your mistake and LETTING THIS GODFORSAKEN
> THREAD DIE, you come back with page after page justifying things no
> one was arguing about, and trying to show how temp data isn't really
> temp data and it doesn't matter because FV doesn't deal with things
> outside of the user home, and how even though there are user-created
> temp files that are created outside of /tmp and $HOME, how that
> doesn't really count because you can work around it.
Nice try to twist my words. Only I never said it didn't count "because
you can work around it". I said most of your examples don't count
because they are not subject to what I was talking about in the first
place.
Besides, I've just been addressing the tangents *you* went on with your
replies. My initial reply merely stated that AFAICS FileVault does
on-the-fly encryption. Which apparently - for reasons unknown to me -
blew a fuse with you.
> Sad. Your point on the temp files thing was wrong. Admit it and move
> on.
I already did. It seems that it's actually you who is unable to move on.
For instance, you brought full-disk encryption into this discussion, and
I've been asking twice for suggestions on how to achieve that with OS X
(and I mean including the boot volume). Not a single answer yet. So, are
you going to admit that right now there is no solution? Because in that
case FileVault still is the next best thing (and I still have to deal
with its weaknesses). Meaning that despite all your ranting and raving
you DON'T HAVE A FREAKING POINT. Period.
Regards
Ansgar Wiechers
--
"Another option [for defragmentation] is to back up your important files,
erase the hard disk, then reinstall Mac OS X and your backed up files."
--http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25668
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