On Nov 28, 2007, at 1:16 PM, Future Media (Luke Siemaszko) wrote:
On 11/27/2007 20:21 PM, "Karl Kuehn" <email@hidden> wrote:
The server implemenations don't matter. Right now, the *best*
is iCal in Mac OS X 10.5, and it's hardly a great groupware client.
What's wrong with it?
Note that I agree with the statement that the best CalDAV client is
Apple's iCal on 10.5, and that the other projects really aren't
polished or ready for heavy use.
I have not yet had the chance to use Apple's CalDAV server for any
real use yet (other things on the first few rows of burners), so have
no criticism of it. But it is a 1.0 product, and it is the first 1.0
product to use a still-in-recommendation level RFC. My understanding
is that Apple is still in the process of moving to it internally (from
MeetingMaker), and that there are no big companies that are yet
implementing it. This has less to do with the quality of the product,
and more to do with newness.
Dan Shoop was claiming that "big companies" are using CalDAV right
now, but the truth is that the CalDAV standard has not been used by
anyone big at this point, and probably still has a lot of shaking out
to do. I like what I have heard about the consortium's process and
think that it is likely that interoperability will be very good, but
that is going to take some time.
My comments thus far have only been to point out that CalDAV is an
"emerging technology" that is just starting to be visible in this space.
I could really do with some feedback from someone who's got some
experience with it, as I *really* need some decent groupware, and I
was hoping that iCal on 10.5 was it. Says he having just ordered
10.5 server for this purpose.
What do you mean by "groupware", that is a buzz-word that people toss
around so much that it does not have any real meaning. The iCal Server
is just shared calendering plus meetings (including rooms and devices
and free/busy resolution). It does not cover the shared items (files,
etc), scheduling, shared todo's/project lists, etc that other
"groupware" might have pieces of.
You are going to have to better define your expectations for us (and
possibly yourself) before anyone can help you out on that project.
I'd be really interested to know what you think's wrong with it, and
if there's a better (affordable) option for OS X - there wasn't last
time I looked.
Personally I am using Zimbra at this point, and am very happy with
it, and if you are a small shop it is worth looking at (free is good).
But I am not going to make a recommendation of it without knowing what
you expect out of a "groupware" server.
PS... Zimbra is also playing with CalDAV implementation and has a
"badly hidden" CalDAV server in their 5.0 (beta) product. They have
been looking at iCal (client) as the main client for this
functionality, and the iCal client is what they are using for
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