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Re: Time to move to 10.5 server???



On Nov 29, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Dan Shoop wrote:

On Nov 28, 2007, at 1:48 PM, Karl Kuehn wrote:
Dan Shoop was claiming that "big companies" are using CalDAV right now,

No, I said they were using iCal. I specifically used that word and not CalDAV and said it was production ready.

You said that in a conversation talking about the merits of Apple's iCal Server which is a CalDAV server (the name is somewhat misleading in that). Your comments in that context were wrong and you are being a jerk trying to pretend that they were not.


You started talking about WCalDAV which is (very simply put) iCal with a WebDAV based iCal Server.

Dan that displays some fundamental ignorance of CalDAV. Yes it uses those two technologies to build on, but your statement is like saying that since Exchange uses HTTP for communications (for the "Outlook Anywhere" versions) it is thus is based on open standards (IE: true from a very narrow perspective, but so misleading as to be a total misunderstanding or a lie).


There are a lot of layers that are absolutely essential for a shared calendar server that neither WebDAV or iCal come anywhere near covering. You are leaving yourself open to weaseling out of this by putting "(very simply put)", but that does not cut it. That simplification directly contradicts the whole conversation.

Both iCal and WebDAV are very well understood and production worthy at this point.

But the whole conversation was about CalDAV, which has a lot more layers that just those two technologies.


Your comments about CalDAV being an "emerging technology" are orthogonal to mine.

True, but that just means that yours were pointless to the conversation, and therefor needed to be shot down.


If you'd stop telling me what I'm talking about it might make more sense.

I had two ways of interpreting your comments about iCal in the middle of a iCal Server conversation:


1) You had no idea what you were talking about and were merely trying to play Alpha Geek.

2) You were trying to derail the conversation by making a misleading comment about a related technology.

Since I tend to assume that people are not actively evil, I choose the first option. Are you telling me that I should have chosen the second?

But at this point I'd agree that this thread has yet to see any merit.


There has been some good points made about limitations in the present iCal Server and the interface issues/preferences in iCal client (in 10.5).

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		Karl Kuehn
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