On Oct 8, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Michele (Mike) Hjorleifsson wrote:
The Licensing questions are moot, i have run OSX and OSX server in
a virtual machine and it is horrible... why ? Not OSX's fault
if you look at vmware fusion, parallels or even zen.. take a look
at the bios date, the video bios that is reported etc.etc.. the
virtualized
session is not beefy enough (from the perspective of what hardware
is being provided by the session) to run and make OSX look/feel
proper (snappy).
Fusion and Parallels have just, in their latest releases, provided
facilities for more advanced graphics like DirectX or OpenGL, so i
think
it will be a lil while till these VM machines are in a place where
they could really run OSX properly, or well enough, for the community
to like it.
No, it has a LOT to do with licensing. If you think the only reason
we don't have virtualized Mac OS X/Mac OS X Server is because of
performance, you're very wrong. It has everything to do with the
licensing...any technical issues would be very easily addressed, and
have nothing to do with the "bios date".
There are a lot more issues here. First, if you're virtualizing a
server environment, the video performance at the console and whether
or not you have Quartz Extreme is utterly meaningless. Desktop
virtualization and server virtualization are two very different
markets with very different needs. The requirements for Mac OS X/Mac
OS X Server in this context are not significantly different from
Windows, Linux, or any other UNIX. Sure, if you don't have
accelerated graphics, it's unpleasant as a desktop environment. That
same fact is meaningless for use as a server environment. For
example, I care approximately zero about local video performance for
Mac OS X Server used as a virtual server.
Further, to run Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server in any virtual
environment (e.g., the non-Mac OS X versions of VMware), you must use
a (badly) hacked and completely unsupported version of Mac OS X that
has broader issues than simply being used in virtualization.
And you inadvertently made this point with the talk of "BIOS"...Mac
OS X (Intel), post-10.4.3 betas, doesn't even use BIOS. EFI support
(and Apple's blessing), for example, would be required in any
virtualization solution that officially supported Mac OS X/Mac OS X
Server without modification.
- Dave
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