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Re: Virtualization... to the original question.. Running Xen on OSX
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Re: Virtualization... to the original question.. Running Xen on OSX




On Oct 8, 2007, at 11:32 AM, Michele (Mike) Hjorleifsson wrote:

On an intel xserve it may be possible to compile and run xen though it would probably be a huge bear of an effort, Parallels is due to release a product for XServe that will allow you to do what Xen does and take advantage of some pretty good tools Parallels has developed.

FYI this was demo'd at WWDC and here is an article about it .

http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/06/14/parallelsserver/index.php

I saw this when it came out...

One of the questions that came up during the demo was why they didn’t show Mac OS X Server running as a virtual machine.

"Would it be technically possible? Yes," said Rudolph. "Will Apple permit it right now, no. Apple requires you to run the operating system on physical Apple hardware. Apple has been a great partner to us and we don’t want to jeopardize that relationship. We are not going to take that good will and immediately turn around and spit in their eye."

This is BS.

Since it was told to me in private conversation I'm not going to name drop, but two Apple vice presidents said that Apple is completely fine with virtualization of Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server as long as it is on Apple hardware (and is properly licensed).

However, Parallels and VMware both claim that Apple won't allow it. Ben Rudolph never responded to me when I relayed this exact information to him and asked about the discrepancy. Parallels and VMware say they'd love to make this happen, if only Apple would allow it. I'd love to get all of these people in the same room and see who's telling the truth, or at least get the situation resolved.

I also asked Apple Legal and Apple's copyright folks multiple times whether the clause in the license agreement prohibitied virtualization. No answer, of course.

- Dave

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References: 
 >Virtualization... Has nada to do with licensing. (From: "Michele (Mike) Hjorleifsson" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Virtualization... Has nada to do with licensing. (From: Dave Schroeder <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Virtualization... to the original question.. Running Xen on OSX (From: "Michele (Mike) Hjorleifsson" <email@hidden>)



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