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Re: monitor ichat


On Oct 17, 2007, at 9:43 AM, William Strucke wrote:

you know what dude? this is the last time I'm dealing with your bull shit.

apple mail will be automatically deleting any and every message that comes from you.


On Oct 17, 2007, at 2:48 AM, Dan Shoop wrote:

Please keep list messages on the list.

-dhan


On Oct 16, 2007, at 9:03 PM, William Strucke wrote:


On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Dan Shoop wrote:

How would you prevent it? While you might stop iChat, what's to prevent someone from hitting one of the web/chat servers like jivetalk, et al.

Seems like woolly thinking. 


1. Policy

2. Firewall

3. Traffic monitoring and enforcement.


Tell the students chat is not allowed.

Block access to ports for standalone client base chat services (aol, yahoo, msn, etc) then block websites as you locate them.

Track website hits and computer usage.

Ban anyone caught violating the rules (or other disciplinary action).


Seems to me that would be effective enough for any school.


-dhan


One of the important reasons for mailing lists is the valuable dialog exchanged between members. Private posts sent back to respondents breaks that dynamic.

Additionally, since our company offers service and support for OS X any discussions, troubleshooting and fixes brought off-list to me personally borders on service and support. While there's nothing patently wrong with this, if you are looking for free support everyone should benefit from the efforts and discussions rather than the single individual so asking that such matters be kept on the list hardly seems unreasonable.

I personally encourage anyone who feels that the time I spend composing responses and the direction and solutions proffered to be "full of it" to stop reading them. I don't care if your problems aren't resolved, I have no vested interest in them.

Those expecting that all responses always will be pointed and stepwise recipes for solutions probably lacking the understanding that aside from the TMTOWTDI issue there's also the 'there may be more than one cause", other factors at play, or additional diagnosis that's required to affect a proper solution. Additionally OP's should expect some level of legwork on their part rather that expecting anyone else to expend great effort to resolving your problem for you.

In this case William you weren't even the original poster, Dominic Mendiola was. So complaints about responses, their merits, or where the discussion leads for the thread seem hardly something

Not to mention asking that the discussion be kept on the list so that Dominic Mendiola can directly benefit from the discussion he started seems completely reasonable to me.

But by all means please add me to your killfile. I myself maintain one and I suggest that others do too, especially if they too are so enraged that anyone suggest that list discussions should not be sent to the list.


-dhan

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