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Re: Encrypted backup using sparse image - Issue



By definition my servers run in a secure enclave, with autologon turned on, with multiple login items and startup automation running 100% headless. The screen saver is passworded. If my servers reboot I have no issues with services coming back up.

With iCal I can see what is going on instead of having to investigate (comb log files).

I put each server into its own calendar and then I publish them to a central system. I can then pull them up and look at them from a browser, my iCal app or even have them show on my iPhone.

Ever thought about inviting your server to do an unscheduled backup? How about invite a server to fix its privileges, dump its caches or backup its filmaker pro databases? I can *see* if I am backing up my server and if it conflicts with some other timed event like log proessing for web stats. I can also easily see when the best time is to run an unsxheduled event. My documentation and my functions are all in iCal ... the definition of "live documentation" ;-)

Best,
DA

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On Apr 20, 2008, at 14:34, "John C. Welch" <email@hidden> wrote:

On 4/20/08 11:54 AM, "John Slaughter" <email@hidden> wrote:

If you want, you can do this all visually from a central system using
iCal and triggering AppleScript apps to execute at the servers over
the network. Each server then is controlled from the centralized
calendar and performs its own backup leveraging multiple processors
for multiple backups.

Um...no, and no. iCal is most DEFINITELY not the proper mechanism to manage scheduled backups for servers. That's what things like cron and launchd are for. Ical's background scheduler only runs in user space, and you'd have to set up mechanisms for the AppleScript to run the backups on multiple machines.

This reeks of "not the way to do it" from a reliability standpoint.

I'm with Demetri when it comes to (at least) providing people with options. How many people are running Filemaker Server with a user already logged in? (Too many, but still.) It may not be an option to you, but it may be an option for some.

I've seen too many people crushed by "but Cron was supposed to be
backing up daily."   It has it's problems too.

There are two mechanisms to use here that are specifically designed for
this: cron and launchd. The fact that neither are absolutely perfect does
not mean that they should be ignored in favor of a method that is not even
close to designed for this purpose.


What happens if the machine running iCal reboots for some reason? Your timed
job doesn't run. Cron and launchd, not *having* to run from a user login
don't have that particular problem


As a test method for the SuperDuper parts, sure, iCal's a good test. As a
method I want backing up my SERVERS???


Um...no

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John C. Welch         Writer/Analyst
Bynkii.com              Mac and other opinions
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