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Re: 10.5 Server sucks, 10.5 sucks



Tatsu Ikeda wrote:
Hello, this my opinion, it's a bit strongly worded, I apologize for that, but free country and all that.
For you Apple guys, I hope you can forward this to engineering, QA, steve jobs, whoever, let's fix 10.5!!!!!



Well its almost certain this isnt the right place for this, but Im three months in to 10.5 server too and my three thousand quids worth of Intel Xserve cant yet replace my 8 year old Cobalt Raq 550r - which is just a web administered click and go simple multiple virtual hosts and email and mailman device.


I cant make it work properly in terms of multiple dns, multiple mail accounts to same shortname, virtual web hosts, inability (to me) to set up apache reverse proxy, wiki group 404 issues, email problems, mailman, lack of IE browser compatibility in wiki/blog. and lots more less interesting but annoying things. I havent even started to look at other areas of server I hoped to be exploring by now.

10.5 seems to me to have a very broken network client too. Perhaps its just me but I used to in 10.4 be able to copy things to a windows server, now I can't it just stalls forever. Same file to same place from Vista in VMWARE Fusion works just fine.

My questions for the most part are being asked by many others here and in the discussions. Ive filed several as bugs.

I suppose the root of my problem is the incomprehensibility of whats 'supposed' to work.

My experience (20 years of Solaris Mac/NeXT, Windows and Linux) might be a barrier but Im trying to unlearn and do things the 10.5 way, but with no worked examples in the provided doc it is a pain.

I even bought 'Mac OS X Server Essentials 2nd Edition for 10.5 - a very expensive book which is 'Apple Certified', to help me but on inspection its written for children. 2 pages on mailman for example which just boil down to saying 'click this and press ok'. I couldnt recommend it at all.

I fully accept I need to spend more time on making it work, but Im losing confidence in 10.5 server, and dont have a lot of time to spend learning how to work in a command line without breaking stuff that should just work from a gui.

Like the OP said... What else can I do to help? I want 10.6 to be insanely great. But this, this is like System 7s dark days...

Angus

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