Except- I think the Apple statement is completely true.
I got 10.5. With a few clicks I had a server set up, and was quickly
deploying new services, like the Wiki.
Now, what hasn't been easy, and what people are ranting about is much
more complex stuff than just the most basic set up and services.
The rest of the junk below is the often heard, "end is coming BS." As
a very long time Mac user- hell I've been hearing that for at least
the last 10 years.
This thread has been such a waste. Earlier in the thread, someone
added that they were a beta tester. If we have anyone(s) to be pissed
at, it was those beta testers. If this application is such a piece of
crap, why didn't they find that out? Most likely because it isn't.
I have a server admin guy working for me a few days a week. He comes
with far more server experience than I ever had. In watching him, I'd
say he tries to make it all too complicated- and there have been a few
things that I got done in minutes that he had spent hours with.
On Mar 10, 2008, at 6:06 AM, David Stodolsky wrote:
On 10 Mar 2008, at 01:22, Rene Schaetzl wrote:
These are in my opinion (and I've been working for enterprise tech
support for 6 years) the only two os x admin books worth reading.
As soon as the 10.5 versions are going to come out these will be on
my shopping list again. I still have the 10.4 versions on my Safari
bookshelf
This doesn't do much for people trying to get 10.5 working now.
Releasing software without adequate documentation is a bait-and-
switch tactic as far as I am concerned. If the only way to get a new
system to work is to hire a consultant, that should be on the
wrapper. Right now you can read everything necessary to be an "Apple
Certified Technical Coordinator" and still not be in a position to
install even the simplest Leopard Server configuration.
Apple put this out 7 March:
You can set up and manage your own network
Using Mac OS X Server. The simply powerful solution from Apple
harnesses the power of Leopard to run your network, letting you set
up and manage a server in just a few clicks. It’s the perfect
option for small business owners just getting started with servers.
Or even IT managers who’d like to quickly deploy a wide assortment
of new client services.
This is why people are ranting. That is the appropriate response
when you have been lied to and spent thousands on a system that
simply will not work, unless you are ready to throw thousands more
after it, and it still might not work. Even if you have the time to
read what appears to be the necessary books, it still adds a couple
of hundred to the price of a product that starts at five hundred. If
the Company is dishonest, there is no basis for doing business with
it, as far as I am concerned.
Now it looks like the iPhone will be supported on Windows before it
supported by OS X. If this is where the Apple Server is now, where
will it be in a few years? We have heard from others here that they
found it easier to switch to M$ than to get OS X Server to do the
job. It wasn't long ago that having a Windows free environment was
considered to be an end in itself. The idea of someone switching
from Mac to Windows was incomprehensible. The Good Will that was
created by Apple Computer with the Mac is now being turned into
cash. It sounds like the end is near for this product line.
dss
David Stodolsky email@hidden Skype: davidstodolsky
