On 03/10/2008 10:09 AM, "David Stodolsky"
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>
> On 10 Mar 2008, at 15:14, Thomas C. Waters wrote:
>
>> And please stop whining about being a "small user." big deployment,
>> small deployment.. jeez. Those terms mean absolutely nothing. I
>> don't think we (my school) is a very big deployment at all, and we
>> are having no real problem migrating to 10.5. Because I can afford
>> a part time person- sure wish I could afford a full time server
>> admin! Though we are small enough, I don't have enough work for
>> someone full time.
>
> If you are running a small business, which is too small to pay $6,000
> a year to keep a $3,000 box running, let alone have someone come in on
> a weekly basis, you are now in a desperate situation (This is from off-
> list communication). This is what I mean by a small user. Apple is
> marketing to this segment and they are not supporting it. That is
> fraud in my book.
Ah, you want magic. You want to turn it on, enter a serial number, and have
a server magically configure itself to whatever network setup you have, with
100% flawless performance every time, and you never have to look at the box
for any reason.
That's magic. You expect a generic software product to, quite literally,
read your mind for data you don't know, map your network, read it's
configuration perfectly, and then set itself up perfectly.
If it's going to do all that, then I want a pony too. 'Cause if Apple comes
out with that software, giving me a free pony is bubkis.
>
> I wasted hours trying to get Leopard running, because Apple couldn't
> be bothered to make it clear that anything but an Advanced Install
> needs a DNS, and a good one, already running (and this is a change
> from previous OS Xs).
It is no such thing. Mac OS X has always required good DNS running, either
on that server, or externally. Always. Secondly, Mac OS X 10.5 is the first
release with the whole "Advanced/Workgroup/etc" setup.
Why, looky here, from page 24, chapter 1 of the "Getting started" docs for
Mac OS X 10.5 Server:
" The next illustration depicts a workgroup configuration of Mac OS X Server
that serves a department in a large organization. This organization has an
IT group that provides DHCP service for assigning network addresses, DNS
name service, mail service, Internet access, and a VPN."
Seems clear to me that for that setup, you need other things providing that
service.
The illustration on Page 23 shows someone already providing DNS services.
On the Installation & Setup worksheet, it asks you the DNS name for the
server. HMMMMmm
You DID RTFM and make sure you had everything in place for a new server,
right?
> This experience has been repeated again and
> again by countless users. This is either a sign of a company that
> doesn't give a damn or prefers to not name potential problems, due to
> marketing considerations. Anybody who values their time will avoid
> anything like this in the future. And a most of those using a Mac
> Server, are doing so, not as their job, but as a precondition to doing
> their job. And this don't give a damn attitude is visible at every
> level of the product - the Install, the configuration and management
> tools, the Enterprise/Exec. Support, documentation, books, and even
> the basic services. I'd rather spend the time to getting Linux
> working, where at least the nature of the task is clear, and not one
> polished up by a Marketing Dept. that couldn't care less what happens
> once the box is out the door, because that is someone else's job.
So that means my Wiki/Blog server isn't really working? Damn!
--
John C. Welch Writer/Analyst
Bynkii.com Mac and other opinions
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