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Re: the joys of macintosh administration

On Mar 26, 2008, at 7:19 PM, Paul Teeter wrote:

I'm going to hazard the assumption that denigrating the command line as you
appear to be doing is not going to win you many friends here.

That wasn't directed at you, I just hit reply to your message and didn't edit the to list.

I don't come here looking for friends, I come looking for information, and have since I joined this list in, I believe, 2000.  And I am not denigrating the command line.  I love the command line.  I just think if Apple provides a GUI tool to do the same thing, the tool should not break what it's trying to configure; and I certainly should not be berated for not being able to correct the GUI tool's problems by people who clearly know nothing about that which they so zealously defend.  I'm an old vet at internet flame wars (from the Beleaguered Apple days of the late 90s), so I'm not afraid to get into a little dust up.

While I agree that Directory Utility can and often does 'just work', the
dsconfigldap (dsconfigad) tool is often far more verbose when directory
binding fails.  Furthermore, quite often the command line is the only or at
least most convenient way to, oh I don't know, restart a service in debug
mode so it will log the errors you are seeing with more detail.

True, Console will work for viewing such logs.  I just like tail more, call
me a cave dwelling troll.

Wow, a helpful response from someone who actually read the message.  Thanks.

My comment was simple.  Please don't SHOUT when you email the list.  We get
it, you're exasperated.

I wasn't shouting, I wrote in all caps for emphasis.  TYPING ALL CAPS IN NORMAL CONVERSATION LIKE THIS?  THAT'S SHOUTING.  TO ME ANYWAY.  NOT SOMETHING I TYPICALLY DO.  OR AT LEAST HAVEN'T HAD TO DO IN A REALLY LONG TIME :)

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