Thread-topic: the joys of macintosh administration
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On 03/26/2008 18:02 PM, "Jerry L. Blackmon II"
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> Sorry, I forgot Open Directory and iCal Server were regular Mac OS X _client_
> technologies. My bad. User account management? Not at all related to a
> server, no sir. Of course, a quick read of the subject line of the e-mail
> might have clarified all, but that seems to be beyond the cognitive capacities
> of the Blame the User(TM) coterie that makes all us systems administrators
> look like cave dwelling trolls.
Hmm...let's play a game. It's called "What list am I posting to?" Why, it's
the "Mac OS X *SERVER*" list. Maybe, and here's a clue, maybe, if you want
to not get called out on the multiple, and blatant errors in your raving,
you might have noticed that.
>
> On Mar 26, 2008, at 5:57 PM, Dan Shoop wrote:
>
>> If you care to post issues and are interested purely in pursuing solutions
>> than I'd suggest you take that tack. However, as John noted, I see nothing
>> problematic other than the issues you've created for yourself.
>
> Problems I've created myself? Oh, that's good to know. Let's see which of
> these problems were created by my hand, since problems of my creation are by
> definition problems I can fix. User password corruption. Yeah, that's
> definitely one of mine. Let me just run my handy-dandy uncorrupt utility to
> take care of that.
On both 10.4 and 10.5, there are in fact, ways to deal with this, including
the heretofore sooper seekret BACK UP club. Just because you can't be arsed
to follow best practices doesn't mean they aren't there.
> Sorry for troubling you. Directory services setup?
> That's right, let me consult the inscrutable documentation, fire up the
> command line and do it by hand. It'll take a bit longer, but it won't cause
> the problems created by using the utility that I somehow mistakenly believed
> would configure the system in a way that didn't cause me additional problems
> after running it.
10.5.2 has gone a long way towards fixing Active Directory issues with
regard to binding, and Directory Utility is the primary method I use. It's
been rock solid for Open Directory. Perhaps you could, you know, list actual
details of a problem instead of crying like the second runner up for prom
king?
> Command line is definitely the way to go. Logging into
> user accounts? Yeah, command line again. It doesn't give you the user
> environment so you can set preferences within programs, but who needs to do
> that right? iCal errors. Let me read the documentation. There is none? Oh
> I know, I'll just use Entourage! That's the ticket.
Even worse, you get neither a pony, nor candy from Apple. You could of
course, use Apple Remote Desktop or Screen Sharing or actually talking to
the user, but since neither of those 3 are what you want, I suppose you'll
continue crying instead of POSTING ACTUAL PROBLEM DETAILS THAT ANYONE HAS A
PRAYER OF HELPING YOU WITH.
>
> So again, where are these problems I've supposedly created for myself? I mean
> besides the decision I made to use Apple technology because it's supposed to,
> you know, just work. As with more than a few of the posts on this list, I've
> found, yours is long on snark and short on beef; I've seen your mouth and know
> where it is, but sadly you've put no money there. Perhaps you should have
> dropped this one in /dev/null before you wasted time sending it.
Dear god, could you take your own advice? How about next time, you post a
problem, with pertinent details, hmm?
--
John C. Welch Writer/Analyst
Bynkii.com Mac and other opinions
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