On May 07, 2008, at 07:18 AM, Dave Schroeder wrote:
On May 7, 2008, at 1:00 AM, webmaster wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has tested OS X 10.5 Server on the Mac
clone being offered publicly?
They sell it with OS X Client pre-installed for $549.00 and I was
wondering how it faired with Server software since they don't have
any information on their website about it running server software.
Since it is completely against Apple's license agreement, please
refrain from discussing this on an Apple list.
Also, the OS runs in a hacked and completely unsupported state on
unsupported hardware, and isn't able to have Apple software updates
applied (not because Apple "blocks" them, but because of the way
the OS has to be hacked to run on non-Apple hardware).
If that's really the way you want to run a server - or ANY - OS,
well, to each his own, I guess...
- Dave
Because apple's license agreement states a particular clause, it
doesn't make it valid or binding, especially when it violates DMCA
policies established to protect your rights of choice.
The bigger issue is the financial backing required to fight the
suit, more than the average person cares to waste to prove a point.
What makes you so certain the license has been violated???
Because the license explicitly allows OS X to only be run on Apple-
labeled hardware.
Whether the EULA is ultimately enforceable under the laws of various
jurisdictions is irrelevant to the point that it violates the license
agreement.
Aside from the more troubling issue that you would actually want to
run OS X Server in such a state as anything more than a hobbyist or
experimenter.
How would a US based company be able to publicly advertise their Mac
clones and remain in business.
The violation is of the Mac OS X EULA. They can sell their "Mac
clones" as much as they want. The only thing Apple could likely do is
attempt to prevent them from shipping OS X preinstalled, or
potentially reselling OS X as a retailer.
There is nothing anyone can do to stop them from selling the computer
itself.
Unsupported hardware???
Yes. This is completely unsupported by Apple, and if you think you're
going to get "support" from Psystar by any meaningful definition of
support, you're in for a surprise.
I think you need to re-examine the x86 project, apple software
update on clones along with running vanilla software (non-hacked
software) has been around for quite some time now and as of recent
EFI based generic x86 hardware that increases the compatibility
factor significantly the gap has been pretty much closed.
Can I update my Open/OpenPro with the Leopard OS using the Apple web
site or the Leopard Automatic Update Feature?
We do not support that feature of the operating system. Supported
updates will be listed under support on the Psystar website. Future
operating system updates may cause severe system problems. Only
install updates that have been tested and posted to the Psystar
support website.
On their web site, they also have a collection of hacks to fix various
shortcomings of their implementation.
The question was about experiences running Mac OS X Server software
on a Mac clone and your response while entertaining, does not offer
any insight into it, all you've done is provided a response which
did not address the original question and displays your lack of
knowledge, understanding and intelligence in the area of Mac clones.
If you knew as much as you claimed to, then you'd know that OS X
Server's components can be easily installed on top of an existing OS X
non-Server installation, and if any hardware can boot stock OS X
installation media, it can also boot stock OS X Server installation
media of the same version.
- Dave
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