On 7/13/11 12:59 AM, "Jeff Yana" <email@hidden> wrote:
>>On 7/12/11 6:21 PM, "Jeff Yana" <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>Agreed. LOM on the Xserve seemed always to be an Apple Only affair,
>>>is not surprising
>>No, it supported IPMI and all. I use it with Cacti quite nicely.
>Sorry, I meant more along the lines of console redirection. I have not
>used Cacti but I would be surprise if it could do that.
As near as I can tell, it never supported that. It wasn't a proprietary
issue as much as a "it doesn't do that"
>>>My point is why bother with VSphere on the Xserve?
>>Because there are a decent number of Xserves out there, that will be in
>>service for some time, and so it's not the stupidest possible idea?
>Yes, but as with any EOL product, especially one with limited support
>options, do you really want to build your entire, critical Virtualization
>edifice on top of this shaky foundation? I wouldn't.\
What, I'm going to just not use hardware that still has an effective life
of another few years? My Xserves are still really solid machines, I should
now relegate them to the trash? Nope. I'll use the crap out of them until
they're just not able to handle the job. Then I'll move them to more
secondary tasks and go from there.
>I am highly suspicious of any virtualization effort around the Xserve,
>whether it is Parallels or VMWare. Instead, I would like to see Apple
>relaxing the EULA so that that OS X Server can run as a guest under the
>ESX hypervisor, that should be the future of the platform. The hardware
>is almost irrelevant in today's virtualization-centric/cloud-based data
>center, and VMWare owns that space, for good reason, it rocks! The
>Xserve, while a good product, never truly had the enterprise features of
>the major players, and Apple was never in it for the long run, so its
>just as well they killed it off. I still think OS X Server has a bright
>future, but not without the hardware to support it.
Apple is a hardware company. If you have ever, ever paid a whit of
attention to their financials, you would know this. They practically give
the OS away at this point, and any thoughts that they'll suddenly follow
the Microsoft business model are foolish ones.
John C. Welch Writer/Analyst
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